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There have been many instances of Canadians serving with the American armed forces.
It’s currently legal for Canadians to join the Israeli military, as the Foreign Enlistment Act only prohibits citizens from fighting for non-state forces, designated terrorist organizations and militaries of states at war with an ally.
That’s interesting. I have several citizenships - sadly not Canada - and the laws of all of them basically say you can’t serve in another country’s military or you lose your citizenship. The only sorts of exceptions I’m aware of are along the lines of, if NATO is attacked you can serve in another NATO member’s army in a defensive war, sort of thing.
Any person who, within Canada, recruits or otherwise induces any person or body of persons to enlist or to accept any commission or engagement in the armed forces of any foreign state or other armed forces operating in that state is guilty of an offence
That applies to the recruiter while in Canada, that does not pertain to the one being recruited.
That makes sense. No recruiting for foreign military in Canada.
Which Canadian government made it legal for a Canadian to serve in a military other the Canadian military?
The law is there but never applied
Likely thinking about proxy wars, This for example would be how you could serve in Ukraine as a Canadian. The issue is its great thinking about helping the defender in a war (like US airmen helping the UK in 1940) but less so when they help an aggressor nation.
Too few to be honest. That said 19% didn’t know so that’s not 46% endorsement of the opposite.
Only 54%!!! what’s wrong with people
War crimes are okay to north americans.
Disconnected bunch.
We should imprison anyone who did serve with the IDF
💯%
But I have little faith that’ll happen.
I suspect this is one of those cases where something that looks like a simple solution to a moral dilemma actually opens up a big can of worms. I believe the current way of thinking is that we don’t have any say over who another country allows to serve in their military. So a citizen who is eligible to join a foreign military just has to jump through the expected bureacratic hoops at the Canadian end for a long stay abroad.
We’d either have to bar all foreign military service by Canadians (which will cause some dual citizens to lose their foreign citizenship through no fault of their own), or somehow put Israel in a special category, which I don’t see happening.
It might be possible to have people who have served in the IDF arrested and tried for war crimes upon return to Canada, but it would require some work to make the charges stick.
I would be happy with something to the effect “not allowed to serve in the army of countries engaged in illegal occupation and/or found in contravention of this and that treaty”, and enumerate the treaty for the prevention of apartheid, the one for genocide, and the Geneva conventions.
Or, and hear me out, we call the IDF what they are and enforce the laws already on the books.
83.18 (1) Every person who knowingly participates in or contributes to, directly or indirectly, any activity of a terrorist group for the purpose of enhancing the ability of any terrorist group to facilitate or carry out a terrorist activity is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term of not more than 10 years.
Calling Israel’s official military a terrorist organization is right on the edge of saying they’re not a state at all, and that isn’t going to happen no matter how justified it is. After-the-fact war crimes trials are at least realistically possible, even if far from ideal.
Plenty of countries declared IRGC, part of Iran’s military, a terrorist organization including US, EU, Australia. Clearly not a blocker.
