Its a good degoogle phone?

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    23 hours ago

    SimpleLogin, Mullvad, Ente, Notesnook, Aegis, Bitwarden, ProtonMail… and fucking TikTok. Come on man, all that effort to improve your privacy and then you go and install literal spyware on your phone? At least isolate it on its own user profile if you really have to.

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          9 hours ago

          I’ve heard of this Fediverse thing but I don’t know what it is, can you tell me what it’s all about?

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            You’re on a part of it. Lemmy instances are a part of the fediverse. The idea is different social networks that can have cross communication. Decentralized as well.

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              Yea, for example you can comment a Lemmy post from Mastodon or any other social media that’s in the Fediverse

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        You mean create a new user profile? Just follow the instructions here, that is how it works on AOSP and all ROMs that don’t diverge too much from it. Then just keep TikTok and only TikTok there, so it doesn’t have access to the rest of your data.

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    I love that OP got more hate for using brave than tiktok :D . Anyway good job and happy degoogling :)

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      I’ve never seen anyone actually prove that Brave is bad without saying something like “it has useless features” (even though those useless features are optional, like Brave Rewards, news, talk, etc.) or talking about the fact that (also optionally) you can choose to see their ads (which they overlay on others) to earn crypto. It really isn’t ethical to do that, I agree with that part, but I don’t enable that option; I just want to browse without seeing ads. I also prefer not to comment on people who use an article from 2018 full of outdated information to try and prove that “Brave is spyware.”

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          Honestly, that mindset is way too narrow. For instance, companies and services like GrapheneOS, Fossify, Proton services, and many others are free or have free versions, but that doesn’t mean they’re selling your info to aliens from Mars or whatever. They might be supported by donations (like GrapheneOS and Fossify) or have paid versions of the product (like Proton and Tutanota services). Either way, saying “if you’re not paying for something, you’re the product” as if it applies every single time is a really outdated way of thinking.

      • Here’s a brief synopsis of the various things Brave has gotten up to, with receipts rather than “Brave is spyware”: https://thelibre.news/no-really-dont-use-brave/.

        Personally, I see a pattern of continually engaging in underhanded and rent-seeking behavior that does not align with its stated goal of ensuring user privacy. Because I see a pattern of trying things to see what they can get away with, I lack any trust in their future behavior and have no desire to use software that I feel I have to maintain constant vigilance over what changes they’re making from release to release.

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          I totally get your point about not wanting to use Brave for ethical and moral reasons, but considering I haven’t seen any issues lately regarding a lack of privacy or honesty from the devs, I’m actually really comfortable where I’m at.

          • It’s not just about moral reasons (although I would write them off for moral reasons alone, to be clear). Brave as a browser has a history of making privacy worse- see, for example, disabling advance anti-fingerprinting in 2024 and their piss-poor tor implementation in 2021. Your initial comment had said you hadn’t seen anything since 2018 and maybe you like the browser enough to not care about their history of careless implementations of privacy features or their limiting of user choice on fingerprinting protections, but I don’t see how these objections can be dismissed as not relating to privacy.

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              They really do involve privacy, just like how Brave used Google as its default search engine when it was first created, but that changed over time, just as the things you mentioned are from 2018 and 2024 (8 and 2 years ago).

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                So let me get this straight: you are concerned about Google’s overreach into your privacy rights, but you are defending Brave browser, who has a history of deceiving users with claims of privacy, literally trying to mine shitcoins on your device, and promoting add for certain affiliates without telling anuone?

                Either you are a paid troll or incredibly naive.

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        Agreed, out of box brave is kind of bad (similar to firefox) but once you personalize it its one of the best chromium browsers out there especially on mobile.

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          Brave is easier to fix than Firefox, not counting its forks. And, depending on how you feel about Firefox-like performance on mobile devices vs Chrome-likes (FF-likes are much slower especially on older devices, have no tab grouping, suffer extremely subpar handling of old tab management, have really frustrating bookmark management), even the good Firefox forks lag behind substantially.

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          I TOTALLY agree with that; it’s not that great straight out of the box, but if you take 15 minutes of your time to customize it, it’ll be perfect for daily use.

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    K-9 got rebranded to Thunderbird. I see Mozilla are releasing K-9 at the same time, but I’m unsure why. Thunderbird is double the size so there must be some kind of difference

    I’ve found that I too had to keep Google Play Store because some apps complain if it goes missing. However I’ve blocked network access for it (something GrapheneOS can do) and it’s effectively cut off from the mothership.

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        Neither have reported trackers on the Aurora store. But I would suspect it’s some kind of bloat. I’m sure it’s trivial to do an apk teardown and check the source code. I can’t be bothered though.