Individuals with autism spectrum disorder (ASD), including those who otherwise require less support, face severe difficulties in everyday social interactions. Research in this area has primarily focused on identifying the cognitive and neurological differences that contribute to these social impairments, but social interaction by definition involves more than one person and social difficulties may arise not just from people with ASD themselves, but also from the perceptions, judgments, and social decisions made by those around them. Here, across three studies, we find that first impressions of individuals with ASD made from thin slices of real-world social behavior by typically-developing observers are not only far less favorable across a range of trait judgments compared to controls, but also are associated with reduced intentions to pursue social interaction. These patterns are remarkably robust, occur within seconds, do not change with increased exposure, and persist across both child and adult age groups. However, these biases disappear when impressions are based on conversational content lacking audio-visual cues, suggesting that style, not substance, drives negative impressions of ASD. Collectively, these findings advocate for a broader perspective of social difficulties in ASD that considers both the individual’s impairments and the biases of potential social partners.
It’s literally just incel shit for leftist NDs (and I try not to wave the flag too often, but like, I am so off in the weeds that the psych people think I am either ADD or extremely high functioning ASD or Asperger’s, like strange enough that I have at least two studies written with me as one of the central subjects, which made growing up not very fun).
Extremely frustrating. Like, much of the shit coming out of here is stuff I’ve literally heard Peter Thiel or Elon Musk say on a podcasts.
There’s nothing uniquely autistic about “having poor social skills” or “being socially ostracized” since plenty of NDs and plenty of NTs for that matter also have poor social skills and are also socially ostracized. Meanwhile, the vast vocabulary of stims or the hypersensitivities or the tendency to anthropomorphize and emotionally bond with inanimate objects or the fact that autism makes you 4x more likely to be trans or just being a furry in general are almost unique to the autistic experience. Ridiculous self-aggrandizing bullshit like “autists are paragons of morality because autists don’t want to say that you look fat in that dress” needs to fucking go.
nah fuck off with that. incels blame women for things that aren’t womens’ fault or responsibility to fix, while we face structural discrimination that is the fault of the people perpetuating it who do owe us not being bigots.
And yet you are blaming things on NT’s that, at least according to the article, isn’t consciously their fault. It isn’t conscious bigotry. Which means it is something that can possibly be worked on. On top of that, we don’t know exactly what the mechanism for that is, structural, cultural, genetic, etc.
So it’s not exact 100% parallels, but the affect is the same. Are you going to self-hate and self-ostrasize while you wait for the world to magically become a better place?
So yeah, you’re gonna face structural discrimination. And yeah, society owes it to you to work through those issues. But wallowing in this woe as me crap doesn’t do shit, for ND or NT.
other prejudices are sub- or unconscious learned behaviors as well, that doesn’t let the perpetrators off the hook
completely fucking wild to call it self hate and self ostracization when i don’t hate myself, only my conditions and our society. I don’t self-ostracize, people do that for me, thanks. Or they take no covid precautions at all, so i can go out and either have interactions that compare unfavorably with death or i can go out and get sick and die. Cool world they’ve built.
it’s not wallowing, it’s recognizing that I have no power to change any of it and i don’t imagine Sisyphus is happy.
I think that being isolated by your peers does a lot to warp your opinion of them into unpleasant places. It’s most visible within the incel groups, since they are relatively well organized and share common beliefs that turn them into lolcows for the average person, but I see no reason that social isolation should effect people who aren’t starting off from a position susceptible to incel adjacent ideas in a substantially different way. In my own experiences with social isolation, I have noticed misanthropic ideas about other people and their motivations spring up with little backing that then require effort to suppress.
I absolutely agree, having suffered the same feelings myself, however, I am going to call it for what it is. I will not validate this stuff, it is reactionary and self-defeating.