Individuals with autism spectrum disorder (ASD), including those who otherwise require less support, face severe difficulties in everyday social interactions. Research in this area has primarily focused on identifying the cognitive and neurological differences that contribute to these social impairments, but social interaction by definition involves more than one person and social difficulties may arise not just from people with ASD themselves, but also from the perceptions, judgments, and social decisions made by those around them. Here, across three studies, we find that first impressions of individuals with ASD made from thin slices of real-world social behavior by typically-developing observers are not only far less favorable across a range of trait judgments compared to controls, but also are associated with reduced intentions to pursue social interaction. These patterns are remarkably robust, occur within seconds, do not change with increased exposure, and persist across both child and adult age groups. However, these biases disappear when impressions are based on conversational content lacking audio-visual cues, suggesting that style, not substance, drives negative impressions of ASD. Collectively, these findings advocate for a broader perspective of social difficulties in ASD that considers both the individual’s impairments and the biases of potential social partners.
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I agree with you comrade but your judgement and theirs is completely different.
You consciously identify that they’re not worth interacting with and decide not to. They unconsciously decide to hate you and then make up reasons for why they feel this way. Your thoughts follow some logical process, theirs is pure cognitive dissonance.
I doubt I’m any more or less logical than them, I simply found my made up reasons. That said, I’m going to allow myself a little prejudice as a treat. Just a little indulgence for the luxury of safety.
This is pretty close to
territory I think
Does this extend to allistic ND people like, say, ADHD? I do not claim to have the same struggles as someone with ASD. I find that conversations with NT people are often guarded at first because there are a great number of people who are trying to get one over on everyone they meet. The ‘average’ NT uses a lot of these social cues to subconsciously evaluate whether they’re being tricked. I find my ND comrades are more willing to share personal information and have deep conversations before they even get to know me. This sometimes makes me worry that these same comrades may be easily scammed or otherwise manipulated by bad actors.
Sometimes I think that all non-ADHD people really enjoy working and all they want to do is make routines and plan stuff out and clean up and give me shit for not constantly being productive. This is not the case, it’s just where most of my negative interactions come from. I, again, don’t know your struggles but to claim that people without ASD are “literally natural born liars. Lying is part of their nature” is really concerning.
“NTs and by NTs I actually mean people who don’t have autism are only capable of lying unlike us honest autists” is certainly a take.
There’s nothing about autism that would prevent someone with autism from lying by omission or lying through self-deception. Just because autism prevents someone from convincingly lying that you don’t fat in that dress doesn’t mean that people with autism are incapable of much more serious lies.
So many NT people make a game out of “let’s see how overtly I can bully this person without them realizing what I’m doing” and I’m like… why? What’s the appeal?
Where does this happen? The only examples of this I can think of are when you give a trainee/apprentice wrong information with the intent of having them ask someone a very silly question for fun. Not saying it’s not bullying in that scenario but may I ask where else you’ve experienced it?
Let me put it this way: when I was in school, a lot of the other kids picked up on the fact that I was awful at detecting sarcasm and subtext and used that to subtly insult me to my face. I only fully realized what was happening in hindsight, but I often had a nagging suspicion that there was a joke that everybody was in on except me.
Or, hell. Just look at the shit that happened to Chris Chan. I’ve read a frankly embarrassing amount about her, and her undercover stalkers (calling them “trolls” is underselling what they actually did) loved to slip in lots of little clues that they were fucking with her and delight when she failed to pick up on them.
Okay, you made it seem like it was ubiquitous.
Your experience in school is horrible. I don’t think using kids, who’ve not fully had their brains develop, as an example of what the average person is like is fair.
Similarly, using the actions of 4chan and kiwifarms and other harassment sites as a way to suggest this behavior is due to being neurotypical is a poor choice
I have met more ASD people than I can count who have lived some version of this same story.
If your point was originally about children I apologize. I was under the impression you were saying that a large number of NT people find it fun to torment people with ASD as adults. Bullying happens at all ages and horrible people are everywhere but I don’t think it’s because they lack ASD.
https://hexbear.net/post/8089961
i don’t think you need to scarequotes typical, that’s a statistical designation that replaces “normal” because less common neurologies are still normal.