It’s a weird comment. They don’t need to put the limitation of having a ‘civil conversation’ on being able to understand our PoV, they could just lurk around for a while, maybe ask a clarifying question here or there, and that would be sufficient if they’re already on board with fierce protection of marginalised communities.
I think what I’m suspecting is they’re setting it up to fail, in saying we’re unable to discuss those topics in a civil way, therefore it’s not worth even attempting or are spiking the attempt in advance. If they wanted to have asked questions here before, they are aware of us and definitely already could have.
this was my response in the thread:
Would I appreciate a civil conversation to better understand their POV? Totally. Will that happen? No.
People have actually had that conversation. You just have to seem curious and not too accusatory. Also — depending on how skeptical you come across — it might help to keep your questions specific so they don’t feel like they have to defend their entire perspective in one fell swoop, although some might be up for that.
They’re aware that their perspective tends to be vilified and poorly understood, which both makes them wary of people but also enthusiastic to respond when they find someone they think is actually interested in what they have to say. If I showed them your comment they’d probably be like “hell yeah, send him in.”
Thanks for additional context!
uh… lemmy.ca can’t see this comm for some reason
We defederated from them iirc
I can still navigate to lemmy.ca/c/politics@hexbear.net
(note, if you click this, the URL converts to your own instance, you have to paste it to your URL bar)
*ohhhhhh but the posts are all from 25 days ago, it’s all old data! Yeah you’re defederated
