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I mean, they are the experts.
Actually, question here: how many wars has Russia won that they actually started?
Afghanistan was a shit show as per usual. Russo-Japanese war was a loss, though I believe the Japanese started that one.
how many wars has Russia won that they actually started?
We can play this game, but we’re required to do the US next.
Almost as though starting a war is consistently a bad idea for your country.
it takes one to know one
Pots and kettles…
Russia also mocked the EU for not joining this war and not helping the USA.
I don’t get it, is Iran their ally or not? Why would they want Europe to attack Iran? Oh right, they need a distraction from Ukraine and they don’t give a fuck about a single ally.
I guess the new allies are Russia and the USA.
“Russia”'s allies are not other coutries, it’s other elites. No country is allied with any country. It’s just that the elites agree on what they should do to get away with more shit.
It’s always an alliance of convenience amongst authoritarian states.
Russia doesn’t care about the US either, the only reason they put Trump in charge is because he is a devisive fuck up loser and would cause the most chaos.
Though if Putin really wanted to destabilize the US into oblivion, he would have “leaked” documents about hacking voting machines to achive a Biden win in 2020. Not that it is at all true, but that would have tipped the MAGA extremist projection over the edge and caused them to errupt into a mass of violent thugs that would have made the Jan 6th Imsurrection look like a picnic.
the only reason they put Trump in charge
Brother, I have some terrible news for you. Americans put Trump in charge.
If Russia has the unredacted Epstein files, releasing those would truly destabilize the world.
Since the unredacted haven’t been leaked, this conclusion either means no one has them OR class solidarity amongst the Epstein class is more important than destabilizing the world.
irans war greatly benefited RUSSia, IN THAT THEY CAN recover the money they lost on the ukraine invasion since the oil prices are so high right now.
Ironically the USD:rouble rate is rising the last several days.
The rubles “value” is not very predictive of its real value because no one uses it. It’s like if I print and exchange “Valmonds” with my friends for 10€ a piece (having my “central bank” buying them back for 10€50 to keep “the price” high), doesn’t make them actually valuable.
Afaik RUR was following the oil price quite closely for many years until 2022, seeing as oil exports dwarfed everything else. Since then, the Central Bank of Russia did a lot of trickery to control the rate. However, the rate was pretty stable for weeks at ~70 rub/usd, after USD:RUR has fallen a bit — until the last few days, precisely when oil price should’ve risen, and idk what caused that. It’s jumped to 84 rub/usd in about four days.
Russia didn’t stop selling its oil, it even kept selling it to Europe through middle-men.
Proof or crawl back.
- This took 5 seconds to find, im not going to actually go through my bookmarks, because I know you’ll dismiss everything as propaganda or whatever. https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-vladimir-putin-russia-fuel-imports-india-war-in-ukraine-price-cap-sanction/
I mean relevant quantities, of course.
And barring slovakia and hungary, we know about those aholes. Still, we’re so low on any russian energy import comparing to 2022 it’s just crumbles left.
because I know you’ll dismiss everything as propaganda or whatever.
Called it
Is no one considering that Russia has a uniquely qualified perspective when it comes to failure? Game recognize game…
Regardless of what the current consensus is the fact remains that the US, through NATO, choked Russia until they had to attack Ukraine.
I just want to point that out.
this disjointed thinking is what happens when your mother drinks too much vodka with you in utero
Right…we made them amass 100,000 troops on the Ukrainian border and them attack using Jedi mind tricks… gimme a break.
I thought Zelenskyy was the one using Jedi mind tricks on Biden to scam him for weapons? /s
i need glass
best i can do is patriot missiles
oh i will take patriot missiles. i think i need about—
gonna stop you there. you’re gonna get 6
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alright good talk!
yeah when i get bored in history class i make up stuff too
Can you explain? I’m lost.
The fact that Ukraine was starting to get into NATO effectively meant more Western influence near Russia. Also, any plans of Russian expansion would be dead because Ukraine would be a NATO country. So I think what he meant by “choking Russia” is disallowing them to take over Ukraine.
Ukraine joining NATO has been Russia’s clearly stated red line for decades, guarantees for the non-expansion of NATO into the former Eastern Bloc, Ukraine chief among them, was even a major condition for the Soviet Union to agree to dissolve. Then NATO and the US organized the Maidan coup, and Ukraine started ethnically cleansing Eastern Ukraine of Russian speakers to the point that Ukraine was in a civil war with the breakaway republics.
Russia tried to deal with this diplomatically for many years through every channel at their disposal, but as it turned out NATO, the US, and Ukraine were negotiating entirely in bad faith to give Ukraine time to militarize. This war was several decades in the making and Russia was not at all the aggressor, even if they severely miscalculated what the cost of the war would be.
Nah, this shit has been going on since russia called itself an empire openly. The only thing that changed is the branding
Choked Russia… By buying their oil!? Russia creates all their own problems by being fascist and stupid at the same time.
lemmy.ml is that way -->
Lol
Ok then
Funny, even mentioning Ukraine in a post title starts a tankie fest. Fellas working overtime, I see
Yeah, they are in overdrive recently. Had one calling me an imperial pig for saying that the Iranian regime, a theocratic dictatorship, are not the best of guys.
Funny how you’re the one Tankie bashing, as usually happens with posts not in line with the banderite bootlicker’s opinions.
And lol at the Kiev independentDo you really love being that wrong all the time?
bless the man who gave you your name
That’s sooo interesting how you’re using the Russian spelling of Kyiv
it’s the real spelling, nobody uses the petty banderite idiotic kiiiiiiyiiiiiv.
but cry about if you want IDC
bye nowUkraine does. Bye bye!
ex-ukraine you mean? LOL
Funny how you’re the one projecting out of your Good Camp Approved Echo Chamber
LOL and that shitty flag to go along with it, so pathetic
I almost feel sorry for you little fascist losers, naaah“lemme just attack a leftist real quick for heaving the AUDACITY for living in Ukraine and choosing to show an affinity for Ukrainian self determination when I didn’t approve of it”
leftists in ex-ukraine get put in jail or their parties forbidden like 12 or so.
Maybe you should’ve honored the Mink accords and let the east and south have self-determination and not live under a coup regime that wants to treat them as second class citizens.
But no you chose to bomb them or burn them alive.
FAFOUkraine is in close cooperation with anarchocommunist groups within Ukraine at the front and leftist groups from russia like Sibir Corps and Cut the Lines that the kremlin has labeled as terrorist groups. i don’t know where you’re getting your understanding that the modern day russian federation is the champion of the left in Ukraine, but it’s certainly not a stance with a grounding in reality
your understanding that the modern day russian federation is the champion of the left in Ukraine
Cheap fallacy of putting words in my mouth.
Russia is mostly conservative and I don’t particularly like Putin.
But they are certainly the lesser evil against a US fascist proxy who get more and more unhinged every day.has labeled as terrorist groups
This Sibir Corps are fighting against their country, so terrorists is accurate. Traitors also.
Maybe they should join the RVC?
Oh wait, they’re from a different ethnicity. I see the problem there.And as I said, typical of anarchists, fight against ‘authoritarian regeeeem!’.
Invariably and only against enemies of the US.
They are an embarrassment and should stop dirtying the name of communism.
Some literally joined Azov.
I hope they get what they deserve.
Campist gotta camp. There’s no “left unity” with these people, just like back in 1910s when Bolsheviks backstabbed everyone who helped them to build their own autocracy
The left is forbidden like all anti-war parties in ‘free and democratic’ ex-ukraine.
No complaining about being kidnapped to die for a lost cause in the meatgrinder for the US benefit. The only ‘leftist’ in the banderite camp are the silly anarchists, they have a tradition of being useful tools for western imperialists and fascists.
yawn
Damn, do the mods not protect the tankies here!?
Usually they get banning, removing comments,etc…
Not for insults or breaking the rules but for writing facts or having opinions that go against the narrative.
Rabid fuming McCartyists can do anything they like.
This is the ‘free western mentality’ and the ‘ruled based order’ in a nutshell.
A bunch of hypocrites.
So no.
That’s not the name of the website…
Wouldn’t be surprised if there is some program that sources places to comment for these bots. Russia would be a logical keyword in that case.
Seriously. It’s like someone spilled tankie chum on the carpet, or something.
Someone did something stupid and refederated with Hexbear the infected are breaking containment again
My instance isn’t even federated with hexbear or .ml and I still see a bunch on their alts
Don’t hexbear
Open inside
Russia is happy US made the same mistake as them.
“Mistake”
Russia’s operative in office was given explicit instructions to start this war.
I think you misspelled Israel.
Yes, and now both countries started a war they expected to easily win and now looks like they made the same mistake. There are an endless amount of differences between these two wars but it not going as easy as hoped is one very clear similarity.
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Nothing ironic here; Russia planned for the consequences of their war while we thought we’d just roll the Iranians, just like we thought we’d roll the houthis.
What war? They’re having a jaunty lil weekend in Ukraine. Three days, in and out, Morty.
You call that planning? You should be SecDef.
Being a lib with no political theory must be so confusing reading the news these days
It’s funny that Ukraine is exposing their own hypocrisy here too. They are defending their own sovereignty against Russia’s aggression yet they support US and Israel aggression over Iran defending their own sovereignty.
Iran provides thousands of drones to Russia. The US provides weapons to Ukraine… But Ukraine is supposed to support Iran against the US, bolstering their opponent and pissing off an ally? Because I guess it’s better for every man woman and child in Ukraine to be dead and ethically pure than to survive using anything below ideal ethical behaviour??
Make it make sense please!
Yeah, because on one side of the war is their begrudging allies and on the other is an ally to their invader
Ukraine gets a pass because they’re currently being invaded. It’s not an ideologicall position to defend yourself, they aren’t hypocrits for playing wherever hand they’ve got
War is a horrid thing, it makes monsters of us all. The only valid reason is for self defense, and we (theoretically) blame the aggressor for what the victim does in the course of defending themselves
The waters are a little muddier than that, since Iranian weapons have been hitting Ukraine for ages. There’s not much hypocrisy to be had there, it’s just sad.
Honestly a better place to point out the hypocrisy would be Ukraine complaining about being invaded after helping invade Iraq; they’d need to endure being pounded for twenty years before they could complain about being invaded.
I mean yeah, we’re none of us pro-invasion here. Glad I’m not Zelensky right now, I’ll be damned if I would know how to walk the knife edge between public support, effective war strategy, domestic policy, and how to stay on Trump’s good side all at once. Nobody’s going to come out of this situation looking heroic, I think.
It’s wild that the man used to be a comedian.
It makes me feel less silly about wishing John Stewart would run for political office.
Nothing is muddy about sovereignty. You either respect it or not. Everything else is just excuses to justify violating it.
Iran doesn’t respect Ukraine’s sovereignty, so Ukraine doesn’t respect Iran’s. Simple as.
Ukraine joined the sanctions on iran in 2007 for the civilian nuclear program and balistic program. That is a breach of Iran sovereignity amd before it with the same regime in place the relation between the two country was decent
Choosing not to do business with someone isn’t a “breach of sovereignty”.
Using economic thrats to try ro force a country to not build it’s army and security is a breach of sovereigty
breach of sovereigty
You keep using that word but I don’t think you know what it means (or how to spell it).
How so? Did Iran ever breached Ukraine sovereignty?
Why exactly does Ukraine have so much experience shooting down Shahed drones?
Iran has been producing the munitions that have been raining on Ukraine for 4 years.
I’m going to be real with you, I see no difference between the USA sending Israel munitions to fire on Gaza and Iran sending them to Russia to fire at Ukraine. Either you need to tell me with a straight face that the USA respects Palestinian sovereignty or you need to accept that Iran doesn’t respect the sovereignty of Ukraine.
I see no difference between the USA sending Israel munitions to fire on Gaza and Iran sending them to Russia to fire at Ukraine.
There isn’t one from sovereignty perspective. Neither US or Iran selling weapons has anything to do sovereignty.
It has to do with which party is the aggressor and should countries use it as leverage for peace. US didn’t commit a genocide in Gaza, they just supported it. Same way, Iran didn’t attacked Ukraine, but they do support it. Israel and Russia are the aggressors who are breaching sovereignty.
Also, if we would remove sanctions from Iran, they could sell those drones to Ukraine or Europe too. Now they are forced to trade with other countries that are already sactioned by US and wouldn’t be affected by sactions.
Ah, so by your measure Iran providing an eye watering amount of munitions to Russia to attack Ukraine is ultimately the fault of the USA?
Did Iran ever breached Ukraine sovereignty?
Yes, it did. It has been helping Russia doing so, which is clearly the aggressor in this war.
If you want to talk about Iranian sovereignty, I suggest you talk with Iranians. They want a regime change in their country more than anyone else.
Your argumentation here in thread - following a post about Russia’s aggression against Ukraine - is disingenuous to say the least. Unfortunately, this kind of watering down autocratic systems is still widespread here on Lemmy.
Yes, it did. It has been helping Russia doing so, which is clearly the aggressor in this war.
How? By trading with it’s ally Russia? Same way Ukraine has been trading with it’s allies US, EU and others? We are at world war if that’s the case for breached sovereignty.
If you want to talk about Iranian sovereignty, I suggest you talk with Iranians.
Yes. Something we can agree on. Iranian people should be the only ones who decides how their country is run.
They want a regime change in their country more than anyone else.
So the world will lift the sanctions placed on them and let them as citizens of a sovereign nation overthrow their theocratic government?
Your argumentation here in thread - following a post about Russia’s aggression against Ukraine - is disingenuous to say the least.
I think you are confused and maybe posted in a different thread. “Russia scoffs at US-Israeli ‘miscalculation’ in Iran, years after failing to take Ukraine in days” was the original title of this article… Ukraine’s hypocrisy is very much on point for this article.
Unfortunately, this kind of watering down autocratic systems is still widespread here on Lemmy.
Funny you say that. You are in effect the most effective propagandist for theocrats and other autocrats. You celebrate murder of civilians by lawless nations and then pretend to care about civility and rule of law. When that hypocrisy is exposed you are surprised why people are not listening to you.
I don’t care which type of government a country has but I support each country’s sovereignty. And if people living in those countries are unhappy about their government, it’s up to them and only them to change that. It’s doesn’t matter if we personally like it or not. It’s written in the UN Charter which we all are part of.
I don’t care which type of government a country has but I support each country’s sovereignty.
I don’t know which country you are in, but I assume we both are part of the global minority that has won the birth lottery and are now residing in a region with relatively stable democratic institutions, a high standard of living, and the enjoyment of expressing an opinion without fear of the police showing up and make you disappear.
The UN Charter, the Declaration of Human Rights, and all other international agreements are valuable if respected by everyone that signed them. Countries like Iran, Russia, and China have signed most of these agreements (including the Declaration of Human Rights), but are apparently ignoring them by default. Russia, for example, agreed to more than 20 ceasefire agreement since its Ukraine invasion has began in 2014, and the Kremlin has undermined all of them.
Iran has now been sending weapons to Russia, supporting its aggression. China has been rightfully named a decisive enabler of Russia in the Ukraine war. Your argument that Ukraine is also supported by the West is dishonest and discredits you, because Ukraine is defending itself. The EU, the US, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, South Korea, Canada, and other democratic states are supporting Ukraine’s defense. Iran and China are supporting Russia’s aggression.
This is why we should all care. Because the UN Charter and all other agreements are worthless if not enforced, and we are going in the wrong direction if we don’t stop those who breach them.
Autocratic regimes are not only suppressing their own citizens, they are also actively threatening Western-style democracies and the people there. We must oppose them by all means - militarily, politically, and economically. I don’t want, to provide an example, cheap oil and gas from Russia and Iran nor any renewable energy tech from China.
I saw a television show in the 80’s where a kid named his cat “Mousey Tongue”. “Chairman Meow” reminded me of this.
Whilst it’s a hard bite I understand the stance. I’m a staunch supporter of the Ukraine and unfortunately they have had to make comprises on their position. TBF I think they have balanced well. I am a supporter of Taiwan, I made an effort to buy their products over Chinese where possible, but then they decided to see parts to the Russians and critique Ukraine.
So I can see how hypocrisy can hurt.
Ukraine the brave.
I do support Ukraine too and will continue to support their fight for sovereignty, but this will do unrepairable damage. Until now they were able to call out Russia for their hypocrisy and people take them seriously, now they are the same double faced liars that they were calling out before.
I think liars is a bit strong. Acknowledging compromise is more my stance. And honestly so many have made promises and then let them down.
geopolitics are far more complicated and simple than “supporting aggression”. it is more like “supporting opening the strait of hormuz” and “supporting preexisting political alliances” and “how the fuck did we end up on the same side of this stupid war as the stupid orange one”
Iran is where Russia has been getting it’s drones from, so I don’t think Ukraine should feel any type of way about Iran being in conflict, it benefits them on the lower level of drone supply going to Russia.
And Ukraine has been getting weapons from half the world, should that half of the world now be open targets for it?
Sovereignty can’t be conditional. You either support or it you don’t.
Sure, but they aren’t.
Do they support it or just not criticize them for it due to being so reliant on US weaponry?
They are actively supporting the attacks by US and Israel. They praised the attacks, met with the exiled monarch and no word about Iran sovereignty.
They also offered to send drones and drone specialists to the region to shoot down Iranian drones. Which is no different than Iran supplying Russia with drones. If you have issue with that, why are you doing the same?
Also they are not reliant on US anymore, Europe is almost entirely supplying Ukraine now from weapons to intelligence.
Which is no different than Iran supplying Russia with drones.
Well that’s just disingenuous and you know it. There’s a big difference between offensive and defensive drones. Iran is helping Russia kill Ukrainians. Ukraine is helping Gulf nations (who didn’t start this war) defend themselves from attacks from Iran. No Iranians are dying from Ukrainian drones.
Don’t feed the troll, or the tankie lol!
Found AOCs account lol.
My bulletproof Armor and riot Shield is for defensive purposes only, don’t worry.There’s a big difference between offensive and defensive drones.
There’s a big difference between offensive and defensive drones.
What a joke. There isn’t such a thing as defensive weapon. Weapons are effensive by their fucking nature.
Ukraine is helping Gulf nations (who didn’t start this war) defend themselves from attacks from Iran.
The same Gulf countries that allow US bases from which attacks are conducted? Do you even believe the shit you say?
Seems to be a touchy subject for you so I’ll just leave it at this. Take care.
It should be for everyone. We lived through live genocide streamed to the world to see and heard excuse after excuse that nothing could be done because US only supplies defensive weapons to war criminals.
What a pathetic attempt at condescension
They are actively supporting the attacks by US and Israel.
The funny thing is that nobody even asked Ukraine for help, Zelenskyy just volunteered it. Very odd timing, as one would expect Ukraine to need all the resources it has, and more, at this moment.
The military bases are used to provide intel to israel and the usa to murder civilians in Iran including anti regime iranians. Nothing defensive about them. Ukranians did participate in the Iraq occupation nobody can use it to jusify the urrian occupation. Iran providing drones to Russia do not justify the war of agresdion israel and the usa started it
If ukraine can talk about a peace deal, it could also negociate along europe to make them move from supporting russia to supporting Ukraine
Yup yup yup. Ukraine has been an American colony since they got couped in the early 2010s and Europe is another group of American vassals so saying they’re dependent on them doesn’t really change much altogether, it’s not like they’re team BRICS. So it doesn’t really matter. Some people are silly enough to see the Russian war on Ukraine in a vacuum, not understanding the efforts America has gone through for decades to isolate, destabilise and control Russia, the coup and following the establishment of Ukraine as another American base (basically just Taiwan of Eastern Europe) would’ve continued as planned if Russia hadn’t attacked them. It still continued but with obvious difficulties, hence the kind of stalemate between Western powers and Russia we see today.
Russia is as much a hypocrite here. They are the aggressor using excuses to breach Ukraine’s sovereignty in the same naked way as US or Israel does all the fucking time.
Rich of you to talk about destabiliation as Russia openly interferes in Georgia and Moldova.
Is Russia supposed to move outside of Europe so they don’t get choked and invaded by the West (America and dogs, and I live in a dog country, trust me I don’t like it either)? Is it their fault they are now surrounded by American vassal states, finally with the Ukrainian takeover (Zelensky was publicly embarrassed with that whole “did you even say thank you?” or whatever that was, scolded like a child and the entire EU was meant to sit like employees listening to daddy Trump seen in that recent infamous picture: even the nature of the relationships between these countries and America, the vassalage, is more than out in the open!)?
Friend, if you think that the alternative to Russia moving against Ukraine before America managed to build all the military facilities and industry to finally takeover Russia and make the entirety of Europe their vassals is a “non aligned, independent Ukraine”, you live in la la land. No, this is somewhat similar to what Iran is doing with its nearby neighbours, except that they got bombed twice and suffered the decapitation of their political and religious leader. They believed in the West, they tried diplomacy, after a coup and the following revolution, after years of economic wars. The difference is that Russia anticipated this to a certain degree (they still got all their money stolen by European banks 🤷), probably because the Russians have already dealt with the West for long enough to know they only know violence and subjugation, not cooperation and integration, so war was always going to happen. So Ukraine got infiltrated and couped (or “had their revolution” if you still buy into propaganda) and the rest is history.
Also, bear in mind, any country “moving into the Western sphere of influence” is a potential danger to their non-subjugated neighbours, because at any moment America can start building bases and intelligence and then destabilisation or strikes start happening. For Russia, this is existential, same as it is for Iran today. You’ll notice you mentioned Russian neighbours and not, idk, Somalia, Iran, Vietnam, Venezuela, etc etc. I feel that speaks for itself, right?
We are inpase it seems. You support violating countries sovereignty when it suites you, I oppose it in all cases. There is nothing you can say that can justify or excuse it.
Fair enough, fair enough.
Ukraine is no longer reliant on the usa . In fact, europe is the biggest backer of Ukraine right to defend itself and the usa eased up the sanctions on russia because of that war Ukraine support and also moved defendive assets from ukraine to help Israel
It’s funny how we all delegate the use of heavy weapons to people who are barely able to communicate
It seems like Russia has actually gained from its invasion of Ukraine while the US stands to lose (some of) its military bases and influence in gulf states. So I don’t see the necessity for irony.
What has Russia gained from the Ukraine invasion? Genuinely asking.
Way less people to pay pensions for in 30 years
Way less old weapons to recycle
Being BFF with North Korea
A possibility to turn around when the economy tanks
A greener world with less oil and gas exports
Enlarging NATO for a more peaceful future
Do I have to go on?
he probably meant from IRANS invasion, the oil prices rose as a result of the strait being Mined, and the sanctions being lifted?>
A horrendous number of dead working age men?
Come on, i was trying to bait them into saying something outrageously stupid, now they wont reply. :(
They helped deplete the US’s munition stores and now they’re in a much worse position to fight Iran.
Not really?
First, the US stopped sending aid a long time ago. It’s currently just that some of it is allowed to be sold to Ukraine by weapons manufacturers.
Second, most of what was sent was stuff that was sitting around that was required to be replaced anyway. It was created with the intent to fight Russia, and it was just wasting away. It literally has to be thrown away after a period, if it isn’t used, and replaced.
Whatever happens in Iran, it isn’t because of a lack of munitions. That pretty much been proven. It’s because the US can’t fight the kind of war that needs to be fought, and it never has been able to. Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan prove that. Iran can hide out in their mountains and nothing can be done about it.
The US only stopped sending aid last year, that doesn’t give it enough time to recover from the $70 billion in hardware it already sent. It’s also continued selling weapons to Ukraine even as it cut back on aid, as well as pressuring NATO to ramp up its purchases of US weapons (which are then going to Ukraine anyway), which still depletes the stocks.
As for it not mattering, the US has demonstrated they’re willing to strike civilian targets. I’d say it matters to Iranian civilians if the US has less capability of blowing up their hospitals and schools because it has already exhausted itself.
Man, you are so far deep in your bubble. You think Russia can fight a war for years, but the US is out of munitions in a few days? I don’t care about your opinion if the country. You have to be really stupid to believe the US munitions stockpile is hardly even scratched by this so far. Hell, the ships that have expended munitions probably aren’t even low.
You’re allowed to think it’s bad and wrong without purposefully being an idiot. Your opinion should at least attempt to be based in reality. The weapons used in Iran were already in the region, and that’s obviously only a small fraction of what exists back home. The stockpile likely isn’t strong enough for a “forever war”, like Trump says, but this so far was nothing.
Why the fuck are you talking to me like that? Why can’t we just have a discussion without the personal attacks?
Patriot missiles are running low, and when those run out intercepting missiles will get much harder. How do you think that happened? Maybe I’m just a stupid worthless piece of shit, but it sure fucking looks like Ukraine depleted the US’s stockpile.
It’s like you ignored the entire section about the US sending munitions that would have never been used in Iran because it was either send them to someone else or throw them away.
Russia is honestly the last nation that should talk about anything with regards to this. They have had numerous high profile military failures in Ukraine (a country they promised never to invade beforehand), are stuck in WW1 with drones and an almost frozen frontline for over 4 years now, and suffered hundreds of thousands of casualties and tens of thousands of losses of high value equipment. A bombing campaign in Iran and subsequent Iranian retaliation (for now) pales in comparison to that, though the situation could always escalate in Iran.
If Russia could carry out a bombing campaign in Ukraine like the US and Israel are doing in Iran, they absolutely would. If Russia could do anything materially to hinder the US and Israeli bombing campaign in Iran such as supplying air defence systems to Iran, it would. It’s a question of capability, not of will.
That’s a surprising take given your instance.
Nah, it’s pretty basic for hexbear.
Most of you guys just shut your eyes and cover your ears if analysis of world events are any deeper than “russian man bad”.
The vast majority of what I see from hexbear is “Russia/China is good because the US is bad,” like it’s some sort of zero sum game where both can’t be bad.
See that’s what I mean by “shut your ears when analysis is any deeper than russian man bad.”
You see people do something other than mindlessly regurgitate state department propaganda and instead of engaging with what they write, your eyes glaze over and reduce it to a simplistic fascimile that you can understand and disregard.No, what I mean is I see people from hexbear mindlessly regurgitating propaganda instead of engaging with what they write.
You know, like what you’re doing now.
You know, like what you’re doing now.
Sad comeback, stopped working in kindergarten. What propaganda have you seen me put out in this thread?
That wasn’t a comeback, it was pointing out hypocrisy.
And the way you speak about your instance and how everyone else is dumb and brainwashed screams authoritarian and/or fascist propaganda.
Which is funny because what you’re accusing me of doing is exactly the behavior people from hexbear and lemmygrad are infamous for.
That’s why I said that a nuanced take from hexbear is surprising, because it’s rare for any of them to actually admit that Russia has issues.
Misery loves company.
Cool, now Trump will drop all the other sanctions.
