Exactly how would the Canadian government be able to enforce it? The Americans will do what the Americans are going to do.
First of all, it’s the principle of not participating in a literal fucking genocide. Second, Americans can do what they want to do without Canada continuing to send weapons to them to commit atrocities. Seems like a really low bar for anybody with even a shred of moral integrity.
Yeah. There can only be one reason. Let’s not ask in case there’s a second reason that doesn’t help our agenda.
Did I read that right?
Basically, the Likudnik government in Israel is a big welfare teat for the weapons industries. We the taxpayers see our money taken not to improve living conditions at home directly, but to subsidise selected harmful (weapons-making) industries by way of “aid to Israel”. Now, this helps the people who own those industries and are invested in them and work for them, but it doesn’t help the rest of us any — not like it would if it were invested in our health care system, or schools, libraries, public transit, carbon reduction.
The worst is the Bloc Quebecois
I’m not sure it’s about “appeasing Trump”, so much as “making money”. Defense contracts pay well, and there is a significant portion of the Canadian manufacturing industry that relies on that income.
The unfortunate truth is, no matter who you sell weapons to, they are eventually going to be used to kill people. That’s what they’re for.
Now imagine if all that labour and resources that go into weapons industry was instead directed towards things like building affordable housing, infrastructure, providing healthcare, and so on.
Completely different kinds of industry. Swapping out those investments would put tens of thousands of hard working Canadians out of jobs.
Ah, yes those poor workers making weapons that are used to murder innocent civilians across the globe. My heart bleeds for them.
No one is forcing weapons buyers to use them.
Not everyone has a bullshit office job.
Nobody is forcing Canada to produce weapons that are used predominantly to massacre civilians either. Meanwhile, I’d much rather have a bullshit office job than have blood of children on my hands. But I guess some people are just utterly depraved.
Yeah, all those monsterous welders, machinists, fabricators, and foundry workers. They are literally the worst kinds of people. /s
They’re literally working in the industry of murder. Also, thought you just literally claimed that these skills were exclusive to people murdering industry. Turns out they could be applied to productive purposes that actually benefit people in Canada. Who knew!
They work in high-tech manufacturing. The majority of which is not exclusively defense tech. They make all kinds of stuff, including defense tech. The money made from those contracts, supports an entire industry that also makes everything else. Without it, there would be no Canadian domestic manufacturing industry left.
And seriously…where do you think the money for all that comes from? Do you honestly think that foreign countries that are currently buying Canadian armored vehicles are just going to switch over to investing in Canadian healthcare? Or housing? It’s weird that you think Canadians can just reallocate that money to other things. You want to stop the manufacturing industry from taking those contracts…that money doesn’t get used for other things. It simply disappears from our economy altogether, and all those workers that relied on it, lose their jobs.
There’s absolutely no reason why labour and resources allocated to filling military contracts couldn’t be directed towards productive purposes. And seriously, what do you think money is exactly? It’s just an allocator. We have a fiat currency last I checked, and our government can issue as much currency as it wants. That’s where money comes from in case you didn’t know. We don’t have to be selling armored vehicles to other countries at all. Our government could be creating crown corporations and hiring workers to build things people in Canada need.
The whole context of this discussion here is literally about using this industry for other things. 🤦
You don’t see any difference in selling weapons to Israel vs selling them to Ukraine?
Technically, Canada isn’t “selling weapons to Israel”. We’re selling weapons components to the US. What they do with that, is out of our control. If Canada wants to stop that from happening, we would need to cut off all defense contracts with the US…which would tank our entire manufacturing industry.
If your industry knows the weapons it is building will most likely be used for genocide (which, considering the US is now fully fascist and at Israel’s beck and call, puts the likelihood at near 100%), then I’d consider it deeply unethical to continue selling those weapons to the US.
It is not unlike IBM continuing to assist the Nazi’s with their computers. Yes, saying no would be a financial hit, but like… Take the hit? It’s supporting genocide otherwise. And if that industry would collapse if it decided not to support genocide, then maybe they should find a different way to make money, otherwise that industry shouldn’t exist.
