Communism looks good on paper

and looks even better in the real world

  • StonksDiff13@lemmy.today
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    Ya covid was barely worse than regular flu viruses when you compare the death ratios. And I’m progressive by the way. I got the shots and locked down then saw that all the smart money was in healthcare, the vaccine manufacturers and insurance.

    If the west cared about their economies then why did they require vaccine cards to enter grocery stores or the work place in their most populous areas?

    I truly don’t understand where you get these ideas or care which country is better. Both suck. The people of this world deserve better than either has to offer. That is the conversation I’m trying to have.

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      Ya covid was barely worse than regular flu viruses when you compare the death ratios.

      It is hard to avoid the temptation of insulting you for this abysmally dogshit take.

      Idk how privliged you are. I’ve had multiple family members die to covid. Worldwide, the number of deaths confirmed from covid was over 5 million, but estimated excess mortality was in the 25 million range.

      You get all pissy about “10 million aborted fetuses” (as if fetuses have a conscious life for me to take", but 25 million actual dead is nothing for you. On brand for a capitalist!

      https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid

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        13 hours ago

        The first sign of self consciousness is throwing insults.

        Out of respect for yours and my family members who passed from COVID, I will say I think it’s stupid anyone dies from the flu regardless of which one it is.

        Lastly, when you look at deaths per cases, you’ll see I’m correct. The uniqueness of COVID was not its mortality like the drug manufacturers wanted you to think. “The vaccine stops the spread.” Remember that? How many people died from the vaccine after being coerced into taking it? Do those people matter to you?

        Masks were the real solution. China already had a culture of mask wearing while sick. I myself an immunocompromised. I was so angry at people who didn’t wear masks and still get highly perturbed when people appear in public places without them while coughing or sneezing their personal fluids everywhere. It’s disgusting.

        But after all my thrashing about, I came to a very simple conclusion about life and people. You can’t force people to do anything. You can’t tell them what to do and expect them to listen. Creating a forceful or even violent consequence for this situation isn’t “correct.” It’s just more bad on top of bad.

        The truth is education is the answer to most problems. Better education reduces racism, violence, drug use, susceptibility to propaganda, increases financial decision making, emotional control, overall happiness and should absolutely give people the perspective that they should not do onto others that they would not have done upon themselves with higher standards than “derr my southern attitude is that I don’t care about me own health so I’m fine coughing on you.” What a load of shit. Some Americans set a truly low bar in that regard.

        But, I have evolved from the previous mindset you seem particularly situated on. Believe me my worst fear is that this was part of their intention. Real deaths creating permanent divide between the red and blue. Right where they want us, right? Fighting each other instead of them. Isn’t this all simply a class war? At least in America it is.

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          The uniqueness of COVID was not its mortality like the drug manufacturers wanted you to think.

          You’re a right wing weirdo.

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            I’m not. I’m progressive. Like Bernie Sanders progressive. But your name calling makes you something alright.

            This one of the markers I would use for a “good” system:

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_inequality-adjusted_Human_Development_Index

            The Inequality Adjusted Human Development Index.

            Iceland, Norway, Denmark, Switzerland… these are the leaders in this index. How? A high-welfare free market economy.

            This is capitalism but with a foundation of human rights built on high taxes using examples like net wealth tax.

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              Right.

              Iceland, Norway, Denmark, Switzerland…

              Search for how many land/companies they own in South America/Africa, were the Amazonian wood go, the minerals extract from South America and the gems from Africa, who owns the vast majority of Brazilian coffee

              This is capitalism but with a foundation of human rights built on high taxes using examples like net wealth tax.

              This is imperialism with nice things for white people.

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          How many people died from the vaccine after being coerced into taking it?

          None. Since when the fuck do mRNA vaccines kill people? Hell even older vaccines have negligible mortality.

          You can’t force people to do anything. You can’t tell them what to do and expect them to listen.

          You can. What do you think the legal system is?

          Real deaths creating permanent divide between the red and blue.

          Red and blue? Brother, I’m not American nor have I ever even been to America. I don’t subscribe to either side of your political aile.

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              11 hours ago

              Point 1

              The mRNA vaccines for COVID-19, which have now been administered several billion times, have been heavily scrutinized for safety and have been shown to be extremely safe, said Joseph Wu, MD, PhD, the director of the Stanford Cardiovascular Institute.

              Vaccine-associated myocarditis occurs in about one in every 140,000 vaccinees after a first dose and rises to one in 32,000 after a second dose. For reasons that aren’t clear, incidence peaks among male vaccinees age 30 or below, at one in 16,750 vaccinees.

              Direct quote from your source. All it says is that in some people it can cause a little heart tissue damage.

              Point 2:

              If you wish to abolish the prison system then I am OK with that. If you ain’t wishing to do that I’m not even sure what your position is and I doubt it would be coherent in any way.

              Point 3:

              Blud … you brought up “red and blue”

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                11 hours ago

                1 in 32000 is very close to the ratio of deaths from COVID itself. And they recommended 3 shots minimum with continuous maintenance doses!!

                Myocarditis from the mrna vaccine has killed several people which is the point I was making.

                I got three shots myself and they didn’t work (according to the same doctors who administered them). Imagine my resentment in not being able to grocery shop without my vaccine card which only increased my heart disease risk without any of the benefit. I had to go back and get antibodies directly injected at a later date. Then still got a fever of 104 for 36 hours. It’s sort of hard to believe all the bullshit from my perspective. I still think masks are the way to go.