A passenger in the car with Ruben Ray Martinez wrote that the men were trying to comply with authorities before Mr. Martinez was shot. The passenger, Joshua Orta, died in a car accident on Saturday.

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    [The dad,] Mr. Arriaga got an alert on his phone about the crash and headed to the scene.

    Not a message from one of the passengers, an alert. Probably a Tesla or some other always-connected electric vehicle.

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      Yeah I noticed that little detail too. Definitely seems like a newer car.

      We already know that these vehicles spy on us using mics and sensors that phone home. We also know that some manufacturers allow users to summon their car and/or remotely disable the car. But, I think a capability that hasn’t been fully revealed to us yet is the ability for manufacturers and (presumably intelligence/law enforcement agencies) full remote takeover of some of these vehicles. I think that we’ve gotten a sneak peak with Waymos and their ability to have someone in the Philippines get them “unstuck.” It wouldn’t surprise me if Teslas, for instance, had the same feature.

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        But, I think a capability that hasn’t been fully revealed to us yet is the ability for manufacturers and (presumably intelligence/law enforcement agencies) full remote takeover of some of these vehicles.

        Assuming it is a Tesla, if they do, it’s likely only implemented in a targeted OTA update package. Tesla’s regular firmware packages are heavily scrutinized by white-hats for datamining and jailbreaking purposes, and it would be far too risky to leave something like that accessible to people with reverse engineering experience.

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          I did not know that stuff was available to the public to scrutinize. Interesting.

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            It’s not. But as with any computer, if someone has physical access, they can extract compiled code and reverse engineer it.

            I mentioned Tesla specifically because there’s enough interest in reverse engineering their cars that it would be unlikely for them to be able to slip something like that in without it getting quickly noticed.