Does anyone have a method of deprogramming liberals who believe in the Uyghur genocide? I have a new friend who is good on Palestine but awful on Xinjiang. Very AP-brained and trusting of western propaganda. He’s well-read and is open to having his ideas challenged, so looking for something well-sourced or he’d probably disregard it. I found a debunking video that came out right after the original Zenz “report” that references a 51-page leaked document released by Zenz. It goes through 6 points and shows how Zenz’s own documents contradicts his claims of human rights abuses. The issue is that it’s from a small creator and I can’t find the referenced document, so I can’t point him directly to the facts and bypass the youtube video, which would likely be seen as insufficient.
This is part 1 of the debunk:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ceb2B5oql8A
In a post-October 7th world, the counter is simply “so where are the goddamn bodies then?” It takes less than a minute to find hundreds of photos and videos of Palestinian kids with their brains falling out of their blown off skulls and Palestinians carrying bags of viscera of what’s left of their murdered relatives. Xinjiang is more than 4500 times larger than Gaza, so there should be around 4k more footage of genocide in Xinjiang if there was an actual genocide.
“B-b-but cultural genocide” Cultural genocide always follows or is concurrent with genocide genocide because people never willingly surrender their culture without putting up a fight first, which means the people most able to put up a fight have to be exterminated first in order for cultural genocide to actually work. So where are the goddamn bodies then?
“B-b-but seeseepee surveillance state” More than the Zionist entity being a surveillance state itself and pioneer of surveillance technology? The Zionist entity has completely surrounded Gaza as an open prison, which is very easy to do when Palestinians are crammed into a rectangle that’s only 365 km^2. Nothing goes in or out without the Zionist entity’s knowledge (except for paragliders apparently lmao) and yet we still see footage of dead Palestinians every day. So where are the goddamn bodies then?
Good example would be Turkey, and how the army acted in Dersim and against YPG, this isn’t defined as cultural genocide but Xinjiang is? Your best proof is redesigning fucking roofs for god’s sake
Hey, there’s also a video of a guy driving around a wall topped with barbed wire and every time there’s any sign he stops the video, a red circle appears, and there’s a camera shutter sound effect. This goes on for 20 minutes and also it’s the guy that almost got deported back to China this week. Guess they figured out deporting a “heroic refugee” wouldn’t support the genocide myth.
Oh did he get a stay of extradition?
Maybe I’m being too naive about how he’d be treated in China, but it would have been inconvenient for the US to send a friendly “enemy of the Chinese state” back to China only for him to just… get on with his life with a more secure future than he probably has in America.
He’d go from being no longer of use to the US to (probably) being a living counterexample to the ridiculous falsehoods they want everyone to swallow uncritically. Like it’d just be an unforced error.
Germany deported a “dissident” back to China and literally nothing happened to them. Zenz even made a post about how he she was “lucky” that her arrival went unnoticed by the evil CCP and got absolutely clowned on in the comments. These people are just the equivalent of our “white genocide” grifters except no one in China is falling for their bullshit and the CIA op to name it into an international issue has long since failed.
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
So many of them straight up believe the CIA/Falun Gong organ trade propaganda and probably assume the bodies were recycled and the remains destroyed.
I agree that we’d know if this shit had actually happened. But your average liberal probably imagines a Jewish holocaust type of efficiency and cleanup. They just don’t have more than a smug attitude about it because Uyghur people are double damned for being Asian and Muslim.
In fact that’s the thing, you can’t convince a lib because the lib does not wish to be convinced. The lib doesn’t care about the Uyghurs and their alleged slaughter (didn’t happen) because the lib only cares to the extent they can reinforce their Sinophobic and orientalist attitudes (and by extension their own supremacy / western chauvinism.)
“Uyghur Genocide” is just a half remembered factoid they can use as a rhetorical smokebomb.