Personally I think it’s silly as hell. Qualia is obviously a biological component of experience… Not some weird thing that science will never be able to put in to words.

I’ve been listening to a lot of psychology podcasts lately and for some reason people seem obsessed with the idea despite you needing to make the same logical leaps to believe it as any sort of mysticism… Maybe I am just tripping idk

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    They are literally behaviorally identical to a regular person.

    How? Your behavior is literally dictated by how hard I hit you five minutes ago. Is that P Zombie the same as then? Or now?

    A P Zombie is not real. Its anime shit. I am DETERMINED BY MY PAST, yet a ZOMBIE with no SEMBLANCE of my past determines the same thing? That doesn’t make sense.

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      How? Your behavior is literally dictated by how hard I hit you five minutes ago. Is that P Zombie the same as then? Or now?

      Read the paper.

      A P Zombie is not real. Its anime shit. I am DETERMINED BY MY PAST, yet a ZOMBIE with no SEMBLANCE of my past determines the same thing? That doesn’t make sense.

      Read the fucking paper

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        I read the paper. Literally nonsense. Even Chalmers himself argues that Zombie Chalmers would be making the exact same argument as Non Zombie Chalmers, so the actual question is what are we asking? Can I imagine a universe with P Zombies? Sure. I can imagine an ice cube that is hot. I can imagine a box that contains itself. Doesn’t mean its possible or relevant to the conversation at all. What about this universe? Are we arguing there are P Zombies in this universe? If so, how? Are we simply arguing that consciousness may exist outside of the physical realm? If so, explain the mechanism that allows it to interact with the physical realm and cause physical effects on our brains.