• Leon@pawb.social
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    4 days ago

    You think vegans are more likely to be surprised that predators eat other animals? I don’t see the relationship there.

    We have a really small wolf population here in Sweden, so small that we’ve had to fortify it on multiple occasions. Even so, you have these useless careless animal keepers that get really up in arms when a wolf (or a fox, even) goes and kills some of their animals, even though they often don’t even have proper fencing set up.

    It’s ridiculous, because there are organisations that will help you fence your animals, there’s monetary aid to be had for it too. Not keeping your animals safe is a choice, and I don’t think it’s fair to put the blame on the wild animals.

    Even so, there will be animals lost to predators, and that’s just part of the business. If you don’t want to lose animals, don’t get them.

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      17 hours ago

      No. Like let’s say one is watching a nature documentary, and they get to the hunting part.

      I get why a vegan wouldn’t like watching that, or is shocked. I find it more baffling though when non-vegans are.

      Like. Carnivores do it because they have to. It might be brutal, but for them necessary. On the other hand if you eat meat… well. The food comes from somewhere and that might seem sanitized but it’s just as brutal or more so, because of the efficiency.

    • AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net
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      4 days ago

      I think they were saying that it’s more baffling to them when non-vegans are shocked by predators predating, which scans with my own experience.

      My ex’s mum used to regularly eat meat, but would become very upset (even bursting into tears occasionally) if you ever reminded her that the animals she was eating were…well, animals. I can’t fathom the amount of effort it must take to maintain that level of cognitive dissonance.

      I wish I were a vegetarian, but my circumstances are such that it’s not feasible for me to fully make that change right now. I do feel uncomfortable with the ethical implications of eating meat, but I’d rather feel uncomfortable about it than to shove it out of my mind as some people prefer to.

      • Leon@pawb.social
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        4 days ago

        I guess I just don’t see what vegans have to do with it if they’re essentially saying “it baffles me when meat eaters are surprised by predators predating.”