How the Senate Democratic leader and his Gang of Eight keep trying to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory.

  • Zaktor@sopuli.xyz
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    22 hours ago

    There will be no debate. It will be extended until after the election. Democrats will try to make it a campaign issue, but since there will be no shutdown forcing attention, Republicans will just ignore it. Like they did up until the shutdown happened. People may be vaguely worried, but it won’t be a thing that’s happening now so they’ll just assume something will be done, and the extension now will condition them to believe that.

    If you think fighting about politics now is not important to the midterms, then demonstrating willingness to open the government and eliminating Republican taking points is also unimportant. However solidifying that Republicans are powerful and Democrats will always roll over is important. Not just for elections, but for standing up against fascism now.

    Chuck Schumer is not and has not ever been an electoral genius.

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      22 hours ago

      The point is that this is fighting now, and setting up for the midterms

      If the main issue with the shutdown are healthcare subsidies, this will end the shutdown and provide those subsidies for the next year. If midterms go well for the dems, it’s a win for the long term. If the midterms don’t go well for the dems, we’re in the exact same position in one year as we are today, which sucks.

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          20 hours ago

          I think it’s become very clear how weak the system is. But people shouldn’t have to suffer. Keeping things shut down is using government workers and those who rely on SNAP as pawns.

          • Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org
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            19 hours ago

            Let them be pawns then. Democrat votes now are about accepting short-term agony for long-term benefits and hoping Republicans don’t mess things up in the long term. Whatever needs to happen to make sure that the Republicans don’t get what they want is the mandatory action.