• Archangel1313@lemmy.ca
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    13時間前

    Garcia is in ice custody again regardless of him coming back from El Salvador

    He’s still winning in court, which is keeping him from being deported again.

    Regarding Portland, when he wants to put the national guard in Portland… He will. Nothing will stop him, and I think you actually know that.

    He can’t. The National Guard know that following that order would be illegal. Regular enlisted can’t refuse an order like that…but high-ranking officers have an obligation to.

    He is going to declare martial law… Probably within 6 to 9 months… And then he will be able to do everything he wants and no one can stop him

    That would be the only thing that would work…but that depends on what we do. Without a justification for declaring martial law, those same high-ranking military leaders will arrest him, before following those orders. This isn’t politics to them. They don’t have that kind of allegiance. Anyone who’s actually served in the military will tell you…the higher up the chain of command you go, the more seriously they take their responsibilities.

    Regardless of the individual losses he seems to suffer in court, he often just goes ahead and does it anyway or… Finds another way. If that were not the case, we would not be in a free fall into fascism, which is plainly obvious

    Except we aren’t. One of Trump’s biggest advantages, is his ability to convince people that he can do whatever he wants. It makes everyone around him behave as if he can. Some let him. Others don’t. Fascism is here, that’s true. But it doesn’t have control yet. We have to give him that control. He can’t just take what isn’t given to him. That’s what the courts still represent. He still needs to convince people that he has the authority to do things, or that authority is illegitimate.

    That’s what will prevent the military from following his orders. He knows that. As much as he likes to act like he owns the whole show already…without legitimate authority, they will only follow him so far.

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      12時間前

      It’s a bit difficult to take you seriously when you argue that Garcia returned to the United States as an example that Trump lost—but Garcia is Again in custody… So that really is not a win. And despite him having “wins” in court, he’s still in custody… Which is not a win.

      Mark my words, within nine months there will be martial law. Within nine months he will do literally anything he wants, and absolutely zero people will stop it. The vast majority of the United States will just fall in line and let it happen. Every single member of the military will do exactly as they are told. There will be no military generals or higher up officials fighting against him.

      The only way we will find out is by waiting. Me personally, I’m getting the fuck out of this country once my immigration goes through.

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        It’s a bit difficult to take you seriously when you argue that Garcia returned to the United States as an example that Trump lost—but Garcia is Again in custody… So that really is not a win. And despite him having “wins” in court, he’s still in custody… Which is not a win.

        I’m feeling the same way about you, when you don’t seem to get how hard they are trying to deport this guy…and yet, they aren’t just doing it, like you seem to think they can. It illustrates perfectly, how they don’t have unilateral control.

        My point isn’t about wins or losses, exactly…only that the courts still matter. Nothing is “win” or a “loss” as long as the case is still ongoing…but the fact that they can’t just do whatever they want, is incredibly important.

        It means they can’t just declare martial law and expect to get away with it.

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          They’re going to get away with it. I’m guessing by the .ca that you’re not in the states? If you are, I’d suggest getting out. You can always come back in a decade if it blows over. That’s my plan.