• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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    Unfortunately, the polls in Israel aren’t nearly as generous. If you think the US is drowning in fascist, the Israeli press is a tidal wave of unchecked genocidal vulgarity. People straight up calling for the total extermination of Arab peoples on air and being greeted with applause.

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      There’s been anti-war protests in Tel Aviv every weekend for over a year. You’re not going to hear about that on your alternative media that’s working to dehumanize Israelis.

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        The protests are for the release of hostages, and explicitly not to end the wars, the people actually trying to stop the war are a tiny minority that was active in giving aid to gaza, and are portrayed by most of the population as terrorist sympathizers.

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        How many of those protests are about Palestinians?

        The vast majority of them, and the largest of them, are about saving the “hostages” and opposing Netanyahu.

        One of the largest protests so far: https://www.thejc.com/news/israel/israelis-protest-gaza-war-netanyahu-wftw9xpj

        Not a single mention of Palestinians.

        Speaking ahead of the rally, Yehuda Cohen, father of hostage Nimrod Cohen, accused Netanyahu of “blowing up the hostages in Gaza.” He stated: “Netanyahu is killing the hostages and destroying the country.”

        “The hostages’ lives are in your hands, time is running out, the hostages have no time. We’ve seen hostages return. You have the power to do this. So please do it already. Sign phase B and bring my brother back to me. Give me my life back, now!"

        The surge in demonstrations was also partly triggered by Netanyahu’s move to dismiss Shin Bet chief Ronen Bar and Attorney General Gali Baharav-Miara.

        “The government has launched a direct, violent and unrestrained attack: on us, on our democracy, on our values, on our future, and on the lives of our children. It will not win,” he went on, accusing the government of “turning its back on the law, on the High Court of Justice and on the public.

        “This struggle is not another protest. This is a struggle for the face of Israel. This is a struggle for our home,” he implored.

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          I realized this last year, and it’s really tough to digest. I can’t believe so many people in that country simply don’t care.

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            Lots of propaganda. Likely their entire lives. And the lived reality of attacks from hamas over the years to lend credibility to it. It’s sadly not surprising. Whoever controls the flow of information controls the people.

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        There’s been anti-war protests in Tel Aviv every weekend for over a year.

        Sure. And you had people handcuffing themselves to the White House fence protesting the US invasion of Afghanistan as far out as 2012. But these have been a tiny, vocal minority. They’re in no way representative of the public (much less the Israeli media or their corrupt plutocracy).

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      To be fair, our media here in the States is insanely horrible.

      I cannot fathom why so many Israelis are acting so evil. I actually don’t know a single Jewish person here that supports the genocide. Those I do now are actually amazingly upset about it.

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        I cannot fathom why so many Israelis are acting so evil

        For starters, their media is genuinely worse. The politics is just as bad.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinians_as_animals_in_Israeli_discourse

        Rehavam Ze’evi, at the time Minister for Tourism, once referred to the 180,000 Palestinians working in Israel as a cancer, “lice” Israel must rid itself of.

        So that’s the baseline of discourse, and it goes downhill from there.

        I actually don’t know a single Jewish person here that supports the genocide.

        I’ve got family up in NYC who continue to insist it’s not a genocide and who will point to Oct 7th any time Israeli war crimes as mentioned.

        Of course, this same family will complain about how many fat black women there are on the subway and tell me how they’re having too many kids.

        So…