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        Well, secretly bi then.

        Why is there such a high frequency of republican conventions crashing grindr, if it’s not men with repressed desires for man-on-man sex that daren’t reveal their location in their home town?

        Why do conservatives claim that the gay lifestyle is a choice, if they themselves didn’t choose the straight lifestyle?

        If they were completely straight, why would they think that seeing gay relationships in books entices young people into gay relationships? Surely someone 100% straight would be unaffected and it wouldn’t occur to them that it was attracting young people who weren’t already that way inclined.

        Every fear conservatives have of gay people only makes sense if they’re coming from a bisexual perspective themselves.

        Imagine you don’t find lizards at all appealing as pets and you think the vast majority of people feel the same way. Do you complain when they show people who own lizards on the television on the grounds that it entices lizard ownership? No! Now imagine you find lizard ownership really really appealing but you think it’s a disaster ecologically and cruel for the lizard or something. Now you’re writing angry social media posts saying they ought not to depict that on television because it only encourages it.

        Purely straight men have nothing whatsoever to fear from gay men. Only reluctant bi men worry about it and ask society to remove the temptation.

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          they come from in-groups, religious communities that shun lgbtq+ they dont want to lose access to that community, so they performatively "project:

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            Conservatives. Conservatives are renowned for stigmatising LGBT folk out here in the real world. I thought most people knew this, but apparently not you.

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              But only gay conservatives according to you.

              And the reason they stigmatise queer people is … because they’re conservative.

              If you insist that according to logic homophobia comes from queer people in denial, you need to bridge that last gap to avoid circular reasoning.

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                I never claimed they were at all logical. Conservatives? Nope.

                To actually answer your question, though, it’s a vicious cycle passed down from generation to generation. A bit of teasing others for being different is normal in children because of the fear of others, but responsible adults and parents teach children that that’s not OK and a lot of people learn to share and be kind. Not so much conservatives. Conservatism is a developmental/learning disorder.

                The ones that go on as adults to be loud homophobes and start making all kinds of claims about how it’s a choice and objecting to the existence of gay literature or gay porn or out gay people are clearly still frightened, but of what? Why do they feel the need to make it so clear they want nothing to do with it? Why do they call gay porn temptation if it isn’t tempting? Why do they worry that young people will see something gay and feel the urge to join “the gay lifestyle” if it left them cold and unmoved? Why so they call it a lifestyle choice if they never had to choose? The answer is really simple but somehow you can’t see it and you instead deny it strongly.

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                  Just because you believe something to be true, does not make it true. Its really important you grapple with that fact.

                  If the origin of homophobia is from fear of the other, why can that not persist as a major cause going forward. Especially as you note people do not, at scale, act rationally.

                  This is the only bigotry where people try and pin it mostly on the minority who suffer from it.

                  You would never accuse misogynists of being secret women, or racists of being secretly black.

                  Its only here where the difference is invisible that you like to deny, diminish and downplay the involvement of the majority in upholding bigotry.