I assume virtually everyone in this place is using some third party ROM. Many of you probably rocking Banana ROM off your Alcatel z657 bought at Boost Mobile in 2012.

But is there any simpleton here like myself who is on stock android? You know, the middle age dude who has “Privacy” as a hobby because he can’t afford or have time for a real one. 😶‍🌫️

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    My number 1 feature in a phone is having a built in/included stylus. I do a lot of programming stuff which I usually find is easier to plan out ideas for how I want to structure things by drawing it, it’s also easier for writing out math for some of said ideas, when an interesting question comes up, or when I want to show someone the math on how something’s done, and I’m currently learning Japanese so it’s helpful for working on my kana penmanship and learning kanji, especially learning kanji stroke order.

    I’ve used other styli in the past and know that palm rejection is pretty much a must have feature. It’s incredibly annoying and cumbersome to hover over your phone to not engage the touchscreen, or have to specifically hold your phone in portrait mode so that your hand is naturally off to the side which doesn’t pair well with how we generally write horizontally. Because of this, I don’t consider dumb styli at all and only really consider powered styli that have an active connection to the phone.

    The last time I was searching for a new phone, this requirement (and a few others like expandable storage via microSD card, 5G support, supported my network, etc) ruled out almost every phone on the market save 2. There was some Moto 5G discount model that for some reason had a smart stylus, then the Samsung Note 20 Ultra. I don’t recall the exact reason I didn’t go with the Moto 5G, but I believe it was something like issues with build quality (being a discount model) and the stylus wasn’t very good meaning it would defeat the entire point of getting the phone. So I went with my current Note 20 Ultra.

    All of this is to say, I never really considered changing the ROM because I have doubts how well other ROMs would support the stylus. I’ll fully admit it’s not my most used feature on the phone, but there are hundreds of other phones that have a good screen, support fast charging, support Bluetooth, and have expandable storage. My first feature that would significantly rule out options unfortunately rules out almost all options, so I don’t trust that there are many ROMs out there that would even decently support the stylus.

    That all being said, I’d be very happy to be proven wrong. I don’t like Samsung’s bloat and would love to move away from a lot of it. The only other Samsung device I own is their galaxy tag trackers which is currently the only reason I’ve logged into a Samsung account on my device otherwise I’d be happy to get rid of it and not give them more information.

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    Nah, I have an XCover6 Pro and I haven’t rooted it. I’m reluctant to back everything up so I can reflash the firmware. I did it on my Galaxy S5 a few years back and it can be a pain.

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    I got whatever the cheapest phone was at the shop that wasn’t an iphone, and am running whatever version of Android it came preinstalled with along with whatever updates have been rolled out since then.

    But I’m not a guy, so your statement may still stand.

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    Nah, running stock my self bcus

    • no custom rom worth switching to available for my device
    • don’t wnna break tꝏ many things
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    I’m using a Moto G5 with stock android, too. Couldn’t be arsed to install lineage, since I could just enable USB debugging, run Android Bridge and uninstall most of the malware/spyware shit that comes builtin

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        https://developer.android.com/tools/adb

        When you enable USB debugging (gotta enable Developer Mode first, which is usually enabled by tapping several times on Settings -> About phone -> Build Number, but can vary depending on model), you can connect the phone to your computer and have the computer start a command line shell via ADB (Android Bridge), which will allow you to uninstall almost everything. First, you should get a list of installed stuff with adb pm list packages. With the list, you can then use adb pm uninstall -k --user 0 package.name - wildcards don’t work, you’ll have to go one by one.

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    Nah, I too just use whatever version of android is already installed onto the device. I would use custom versions of android or more preferably, Linux distros, but the biggest issue for me, is the fact that the only way to install a custom OS is to use a rom that’s made specifically for that device. You can’t just download a “one size fits all” rom and install it onto your device. As a result of this, most of my devices don’t have a custom OS available at all, and the ones that do, the OSs haven’t been updated in several years.

    I also haven’t used any advanced methods for removing apps I don’t want. I’ve never used anything like root or ADB, as I’m just worried about potentially bricking the devices I own.

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    LTT did a video about a year ago covering how rough the “stock” android experience is.

    You can also jump to 7:10 for custom ROM information/options, but it doesn’t really go into depth on any of it (outside the scope of the video).

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    I use my cellphone only to message relatives and play some MP3s. It’s a Samsung J2 Core I bought in 2019 because it was the cheapest non-second-hand smartphone I could find at the time. Its last security patch was in 2021, and they dropped support. It’s barely compatible with the current Google ecosystem, and I’m probably getting locked out of it anytime now because apps will refuse to work… even LineageOS, which supposedly increases the life of smartphones, doesn’t support it… I’m sad I’m going to have to spend money on one of these sometime soon even though it’s still working.

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    Basically no one runs stock android. It doesn’t exist

    But if you’re asking if I run OEM android, yes I am

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        Pixel is running something close… But as for what their adding? All kinds of stuff, from camera features to launchers to subtle tweaks

        But the reason no one is running stock android is the reason the Linux phone project is so difficult… The drivers

        Your phone is basically running two sets of firmware. One controls the radio, coordinates with cell towers, handles data both as an Internet connection and a set of old cell protocols we still use sometimes (like phone calls and public alerts), plus hardware backdoors.

        And then there’s Android, which has some degree of control over that mess, but it has to be custom fit to each black box or you get bugs, because they’re all different

        The only way to run stock android is through an emulator, and even then most developers just use the pixel builds

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        Because it’s not a pixel, so I can’t run graphene out of the box, and having my phone working is a key component of my job

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    You can’t be running stock Android (AOSP), it’s not going to work on your phone.