Ritchie Torres is just one rep and afaik not one with much power, but he’s known nationally for being an over-the-top Zionist. Defeating him might just be symbolic but I think it would a mistake to disregard symbolic victories. They absolutely matter.
It’s like with Zohran, even if he’s stymied and isn’t able to accomplish much, just someone with a class-conscious platform enjoying electoral success means something. It shows people are hungry for change and are more open to our ideas about class and society. And a symbolic win can give a good morale boost to all of us and help in all facets of the work we are trying to do.
Of course there are non-negotiables. If someone who identifies as a socialist is able to win material improvements for their constituents, that is good for us and building class consciousness. Someone who identifies as a Socialist makes some pro-Zionist comments? That is bad for us (and evil ofc) and there absolutely needs to be consequences. I just cannot vibe with the stark black and white thinking around electoralism that some of you have.
There is so much work to be done here in order to build the class consciousness necessary to be the foundation of revolution. Avoiding the political sphere (or any sphere) is intentionally ceding ground to our class enemies.
I just cannot vibe with the stark black and white thinking around electoralism that some of you have.
I don’t have a problem with electoralism, I have a problem with self-described “socialists” who make the decision to run as candidates for non-socialist parties. There are actually socialist parties they could run for, there is no excuse for this shit.
I’m going off of a thread I read here yesterday about how he intends to maintain current NYPD numbers and to conduct a thorough line by line audit of the department of education budget to find waste to cut.
No this wasn’t it and when I tried a cursory google search I got the same thing. Sorry I don’t have a source for you but the thrust of it was Mamdani did an interview and said the NYPD would be fully funded and the DoEd would be thoroughly audited for waste. The argument here was whether or not that meant cuts and I think it’s pretty clear it does.
I should have saved the link but the latest bernard acting like the latest bernard is very unremarkable at least to me.
Ritchie Torres is just one rep and afaik not one with much power, but he’s known nationally for being an over-the-top Zionist. Defeating him might just be symbolic but I think it would a mistake to disregard symbolic victories. They absolutely matter.
It’s like with Zohran, even if he’s stymied and isn’t able to accomplish much, just someone with a class-conscious platform enjoying electoral success means something. It shows people are hungry for change and are more open to our ideas about class and society. And a symbolic win can give a good morale boost to all of us and help in all facets of the work we are trying to do.
Of course there are non-negotiables. If someone who identifies as a socialist is able to win material improvements for their constituents, that is good for us and building class consciousness. Someone who identifies as a Socialist makes some pro-Zionist comments? That is bad for us (and evil ofc) and there absolutely needs to be consequences. I just cannot vibe with the stark black and white thinking around electoralism that some of you have.
There is so much work to be done here in order to build the class consciousness necessary to be the foundation of revolution. Avoiding the political sphere (or any sphere) is intentionally ceding ground to our class enemies.
I don’t have a problem with electoralism, I have a problem with self-described “socialists” who make the decision to run as candidates for non-socialist parties. There are actually socialist parties they could run for, there is no excuse for this shit.
The same Zohran who just pledged to slash the department of education in favor of the NYPD. Yeah good ok
source? i find this hard to believe
I’m going off of a thread I read here yesterday about how he intends to maintain current NYPD numbers and to conduct a thorough line by line audit of the department of education budget to find waste to cut.
Caused a bit of a struggle session.
Never thought I’d be not online enough
Can’t find the thread you’re talking about or any major news stories other than this:
https://abc7ny.com/post/nyc-mayoral-race-zohran-mamdani-proposes-cut-gifted-talented-program-andrew-cuomo-curtis-sliwa-want-expand/17925599/
unless you have some kind of stronger backing…? “pledged to slash the department of education” sounds pretty fanciful
No this wasn’t it and when I tried a cursory google search I got the same thing. Sorry I don’t have a source for you but the thrust of it was Mamdani did an interview and said the NYPD would be fully funded and the DoEd would be thoroughly audited for waste. The argument here was whether or not that meant cuts and I think it’s pretty clear it does.
I should have saved the link but the latest bernard acting like the latest bernard is very unremarkable at least to me.
i find your eagerness to propagate negativity on specious evidence to be kinda cynical and i question how you think it helps anything
I’ve been completely honest and it’s not my fault you haven’t paid attention to the site the past few days.