An attendee asked Cuomo directly if he or his team was in conversation with the White House about how Trump might influence the race. Cuomo didn’t directly deny it this time.

“Let’s put it this way: I knew the president very well,” Cuomo said. “I believe there’s a big piece of him that actually wants redemption in New York. He feels that he was rejected by New York. We voted for Hillary Clinton. Bill de Blasio took his name off things. So I believe there will be opportunities to actually cooperate with him. I also believe that he’s not going to want to fight with me in New York if he can avoid it.”

“We can minimize (the Sliwa) vote, because he’ll never be a serious candidate,” Cuomo told the crowd at a Hamptons fundraiser Saturday, according to audio obtained by Playbook. “And Trump himself, as well as top Republicans, will say the goal is to stop Mamdani. And you’ll be wasting your vote on Sliwa. So I feel good about that.”

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    I’ve met several that refuse to vote in the .ml servers. If you don’t vote and discouraged others then your preventing the move back left. Voting is still one part of building our leftist movement.

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        Voting is part of how we move back left. They often refuse making them part of the mechanism that prevents us from moving back left. If enough people no show for Mamdani he could still lose. Harm minimization is still important and part of how we obstruct, and they want to no show.

        What am I miss directing?

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          What am I miss directing?

          The individual you seem to be directing the scolding to.

          That person, whom I can assure you, you will not hear from after this, is:

          1. Not a tankie.
          2. A Harris voter.
          3. Not discouraging people from voting
          4. Sharing memes that bump up against characteristics of Democrats that you seem to prefer would go unmentioned. That doesn’t change the answers to numbers 1 through 3.

          Thus, your scolding is misdirected, annoying, and not whatsoever landing how or where it should.

          Further, I could give a shit if you don’t like that I’m questioning the honor of dems. Not being allowed to do so is how we fucking got here. If Democrats have to pretend they haven’t been doing exactly what they’ve been doing for decades (edit: I will amend that to “at least the past 10 years”) in order to get votes in the future, they are no better than R.

          On the other hand, they can stop playing for the scraps R leaves behind whenever they want.

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            • didn’t call them a tankie. Just clarified what I mean with tankies also preventing the shift left.
            • we should also focus on local stuff, but I fell that’s implied
            • having a negative attitude toward asking people to vote is discouraging voting and part of the issue.
            • if your not voting to minimize harm you should vote where we can get progressives in office. And voting is part of that.

            I could give a shit if you don’t like that I’m questioning the honor of dems

            Good, but I’m also not promoting dems. It just happens that in the dem party is where most progressives are, and I’m consistently saying we need to grow that wing where possible. By not doing that your keeping the wheel from moving left as well.

            And to be clear voting is important, but just one part of the class war.

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              didn’t call them a tankie.

              I AM THEM, I was speaking rhetorically. Jesus. Plonk for real this time. Next time you want to scold someone for discouraging people from voting, please direct that scolding to SOMEONE WHO IS DISCOURAGING PEOPLE FROM VOTING. Not sure why this is so hard to understand, or why you want so badly to preach to me.

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                So what are you getting work up over? I’m just pointing out that tankies are playing a hand in keeping our politics to the right and that elections matter.

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                  If you have good candidates, people will show up and vote for them. The problem isn’t with “tankies”. It’s with the Democratic Party sucking ass.

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                    Tankies actively say voting doesn’t matter. I get their critiques and they are valid, but to not vote is to give up an important front in the class war for no reason. It also means that the progressive movement won’t grow (either in the dem party or independently)

                    Which is why I’m saying tankies are also keeping us from shifting left in this regard.

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          If enough people no show for Mamdani he could still lose.

          Is anybody on the left saying that people should sit out this election, though? I think that people who are typically apathetic about voting would actually show up to the polls when somebody like Mamdani is running; that is, somebody who is both good on the issues and is popular. Typically, the politicians who are good on the issues have such small budgets and are so marginalized that nobody knows who they are, so the voters who would support them just stay home. Mamdani managed to pull off the hat-trick of being both a Democratic Socialist and winning a Democratic primary.

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            think that people who are typically apathetic about voting would actually show up to the polls when somebody like Mamdani

            And we need them to show up in other cases as well. At least vote green or some other third party.

            Harm minimization does help; particularly in deep red areas. And if your in a solid blue place then go to primaries and support your local Mamdani as much as possible.

            Most tankies will discourage others from doing this. Which means they keep us from moving back left.

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              At least vote green or some other third party.

              Yes! Alternative parties need your vote! Research all the candidates. You’ll probably find somebody you agree with, at least most of the time. No candidate is perfect, but I can almost always find one who I won’t feel bad about voting for.

              I dunno. Simply not voting is such a cop-out, and it isn’t a morally defensible position. It’s part of your responsibility as a citizen.