I dunno man. China is pretty Fascist. I worry about them. I would prefer incrementalism and no collapse. Even if that means I don’t get to experience Communism in my lifetime.
In what way is China fascist?
They are an authoratarian Socialist state right now. Have you heard their new National Anthem? It has the Fascist mantra of we were once great and we can be great again. It seems obvious to me that they are a Proto-Fascist State.
A single line in a national anthem is hardly reason to call the entire country fascist. I really don’t see how they can be “authoritarian” when its citizens have one of the highest perceptions of its democracy of any country. Take a look at this study. This is a western study by a German polling firm. 73% of Chinese citizens consider their country a democracy. That’s 20-30% higher than most Western countries, excluding Scandinavian ones. Everything in that poll affirms that China is one of the most democratic countries in the world. Certainly more than the US, where the president literally got 3 million less votes than his opponent and mass voter suppression is the norm.
Globally, China replacing the US is great for democracy, as well: the US’s foreign policy consists mostly of coups and regime changes. When those don’t work, you get an Iraq War. China, on the other hand, doesn’t coup or overthrow multiple foreign governments every year.
What about the Muslim reeducation-camps though? What about Hong Kong? What about the great-firewall?
I love this narrative, the US has been torturing Uyghur muslims from Afghanistan which is neighbouring Xinjiang (and muslims from many other countries) for ages now, but all of a sudden the US loves muslims, and is very concerned about their safety. Also Hong Kong was an obvious US funded color revolution, crawling with CIA assets, US senators advising protestors and had the sole goal of getting the US congress to vote for placing sanctions on Hong Kong. The new security law is an inevitable result of the trump administration overplaying it’s hand.
A perspective from an american living in china, deals with a lot of the propaganda, and especially Hong Kong’s security law:
I’m not here to try to Defend America. We’re talking about China.
Right but the point is that “talking about China” from the perspective of the imperial core lends you facts given to you by empire. How can you “talk about China” when you’ve already been spoonfed a bunch of nonsense about HK, etc?
Well hold on, are you dodging everything I just said? I’d be happy to discuss those three topics but you really need to address that survey.
I had a really long response typed out, but this website glitched and scrolled up to the top and deleted my whole comment. Basically, I don’t think that particular study is relevant to this. That study only shows that their Citizens feel like they have a choice.
Something like 86% of US police say that US Law Enforcement is racist. Does that mean it’s not racist?
I just had the same glitch. Very frustrating.
As to that comparison, it’s so outrageous I’m not even sure what to say. How do cops saying cops are good refute the experience of Chinese citizens? If your claim is they are authoritarian fascists, it seems like the belief among Chinese citizens that they live in a fair democracy is extremely relevant.
Harm reduction in critical support of China over the US is the same as arguing in favor of Biden over Trump. Both can be shit, and you don’t have to support either.
The “China will transition from capitalist authoritarian state to benevolent socialist state” is the dumbest fucking take I’ve ever read on the internet. You think people willingly give up power? After they’ve spent decades working to acquire it?? After installing themselves as President For Life??? I’ve done enough drugs to euthanize an entire amphitheater of Juggalos, and I still want to know what you fools are smoking.
After installing themselves as President For Life??? I’ve done enough drugs to euthanize an entire amphitheater of Juggalos, and I still want to know what you fools are smoking.
Friendo I think what you’ve actually been smoking is a shitload of propaganda that you have uncritically repeated on this thread
So they didn’t remove term limits in China? Is that made up?
term limits are libshit
