• Kuranashi@lemmy.world
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    Tldr; Conservatives are the problem on purpose so they can blame others.

    Conservatives intentionally make policy decisions which make problems worse heading into an election, or otherwise try their best to prevent others from solving the problems when not in power, so they have problems to blame the other parties on regardless of whether their policies are responsible for the problem persisting.

    It’s a longtime strategy of Republicans and it’s been working more than people would like it to, and Canadian conservatives use it as well especially in Alberta. Before the conservatives got back in before the pandemic, they blamed the AB NDP on problems that take way longer than 4 years to solve (which they are responsible for) and got back into power. Then healthcare got worse and worse and when the pandemic hit they intentionally nulled the contract the province had with doctors and shit hit the fan, got to the point you couldn’t even see a doctor outside of emergency here for minor things like getting an STI test (so prepare for there to be a lot of young people rocking crotch rot in the province unknowingly btw).

    They also stomped out all the tech grants that were getting big tech companies to invest in the province so the economy would be diversified. Now what do they whine about now that the US is running back nazi policy? Oh we need to diversify to be resilient to us trade attacks. Huh who could have guessed.

    Next election cycle they then blamed the federal government for the financial and healthcare problems that they themselves contributed to but also control (federal government does not control healthcare or the lack of corporate incentives in investing in a particular province) , giving taxpayer money to large corporations which in turn pay them - and funding it by cutting more public services which in turn they blame the feds on.

    Conservative voters are probably one of the dumbest demographics on the earth considering they are statistically the ones who rely most on the programs and services cut by their governments.

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    This was a video of a frustrated person asking the same question for 9 minutes. I get it too.

    It’s one of the few ways to force these people to say their lack of truth or true intentions. No name calling or labeling, avoid words that are meant for a specific group of people, no getting off topic. Talk in words that many people can understand and make them answer in words that many people can understand.

    Treat them like the manipulators that they are because they are acting like manipulators.

    I enjoy when I am able to verbally back someone into a corner where anything they say can only make themselves look worse.

    I have a deep frustration with manipulators since they believe I am an easy target. I strongly believe manipulators do not deserve the attention or never-ending second chances they constantly demand.

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      Sadly for some reason the Paradox of Tolerance has been subverted and poisoned in the modern day. We really need to reprimand and warn these manipulators the first time, maybe even a second chance. But after that? Bullet to the brain, no exceptions. Essentially it should be that grownup people that cause Suffering upon another human nonconsensualally should be killed.

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    Conservative leaning people are inevitable and you are not going to be able to get rid of them.

    The left needs to do a better job reaching them where they’re at, anything else is tilting at windmills.

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      That keeps leading to centrist coddling and validating the most absurd bullshit. It’s impossible to meet them where they’re at when they don’t live in the same reality as, ya know, reality.

      I mean, for fuck’s sake, 90% of what they want could actually be socialist policy but they so desperately want to make sure the shitty aspects are still there that they won’t stop supporting obvious criminals. Like, they want cheaper groceries, better wages, and a bunch of other stuff that they agree with right up until you point out that what they actually want is socialism if they’d just drop the racism and hatred parts.

      And what the fuck are we supposed to do to reach someone who thinks Doug Ford is an upstanding guy? How do we reach the centrists who blindly follow a relativistic way of looking at politics where they’d vote for pretty much anything so long as it wasn’t the most extreme option in any direction? Harris fucked around with Republicans instead of doing a good job and look at the US. Mamdani is going full no-compromising with assholes and it’s going amazingly. Carney only won because the Liberals still haven’t given us electoral reform and our population is full of short-sighted “strategic” voters who couldn’t strategize their way out of a paper bag and who think that they’re enlightened because they voted for a relative middle distance.

      No, fuck Conservatives. The only thing that should be meeting them where they’re at is a bulldozer. If they want to be part of reality they can move their own asses over here. I’m sick of coddling their stupid, hateful, baseless feelings.

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        Yea things like climate change are one of this biggest crises facing our planet. We don’t need politicians watering down solutions and catering to a group of people who don’t even believe in climate change because their personality is tied to their f250.

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    I saw a reel on insta where this guy pointed out that when conservatives go to (for example) Japan, they comment how clean it is but don’t recognize that there is a whole complex of social and economic factors that fit far more into the progressive mold that allow the cleanliness they love. He goes on to point out that conservatives like to pick and choose aspects of other cultures without accepting that those aspects are part of a whole, and can’t be adopted piecemeal. Whereas, when progressives say “let’s be Norway” they are at least suggesting a place that exists as a whole.