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    This was not an “anti-Israel protest”, in no way. They fucking searched for jews on the plane to hurt them.

    Applying violence to people just because they are Jews or just because they are from Israel is not pro-palestinian movement I want to be part of.

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      @vivalapivo

      It was against Israeli passengers, not JEWS.

      That’s the difference. Don’t try to make it like they were targeted because of their religion.

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        Nope.

        https://youtube.com/shorts/L8ahWSgjg_M

        This episode clearly shows that they accused the person of being lying even after he showed the passport.

        It was against Israeli passengers, not JEWS.

        Even if a movement is targeting Israeli citizens, it’s fucking disgusting as people generally do not have control over their documents.

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            You have no future with this. If we’re trying into this internet activism, we should aim for reducing this 82%, not inflating.

            I understand your anger, but it doesn’t help the cause. You can’t win by killing bad people or by taking the higher moral ground.

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              @vivalapivo

              Israel is a sick society with severe superiority and entitlement complex.

              Just like the white apartheid supporters of south Africa, they only understand one language, and it’s isolation, Sanction and pressure.

              21 months of genocide and Netanyahu is more more popular than he was when he got elected.

              And that 82% was from Haaretz earlier this year.

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                Israel is a sick society with severe inferiority complex.

                Who’s not? We’re all humans and the technologies they use to turn Israelis into warmongers are applicable to any society. There’re nothing essentially extraordinary about Israelis as people.

                Just like the white apartheid supporters of south Africa, they only understand one language, and it’s isolation, Sanction and pressure.

                Sanctions and isolation sometimes work, but it looks like states like China, Russia, and DPRK found a workaround. Good, let’s put some sanctions, but I am in no power to do it, are you?

                21 months of genocide and Netanyahu is more more popular than he was when he got elected.

                I’m starting to think that it’s the other way around: he started the genocide in order to get more popular.

                Again, I feel your anger, I may even understand where that’s coming from, but we must understand that our wish for violence is not ours, it’s a result of Israel government actions.

                I like how Tania phrases it here

                https://tanjanijmeijer.blog/violence-part-2/

                Sincerely wish you all the best

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    From what was reported in the Russian media at the time these were not simply protests in the Muslim majority area but literally violent riots and they wanted to drag people off of landing planes and beat them and worse. In theory these people are probably extremists who fell for the hating all Jews thing.

    The leader of the region at the time said something to the effect of using a bullet between the eyes on these people so I think given it’s a Muslim majority region it likely went far beyond flag burnings and the usual marches.

    Do NOT attempt to conflate this with the criminalization of simple speech and peaceful protests or vandalism activism that the west is actively engaging in. The west is silencing all speech with full spectrum dominance pushing the zionist narrative in media, censoring Palestinian and anti-genocide voices on social media, arming and enabling the genocide and sanctioning the ICC and other international officials who have declared it a genocide to gag and silence them.

    These are nothing alike.

    Russia is not funding the zionist regime. Russia is not enabling them at the UN like the US. The genocide and responsibility for it and the repression of those fighting against it falls on THE WEST and the zionist entity which is a part of the west.

    Whatever else Russia does or has done (and their media is hardly anti-zionist, waffling between repeating hasbara just like western media and musing about the whole Ukraine thing and how upset western leaders are about that compared to Palestine and the hypocrisy).

    Russia was never going to allow a mob to lynch a bunch of “israeli” settlers. Most countries wouldn’t and that likely even includes places like South Africa that are at the forefront of prosecuting “israel” for genocide at the ICJ. I personally would say they’re all guilty when part of the project BUT stories like this are mainly used to shift attention from the west’s enabling of the genocide and repression at home to “zomg look how bad things are in bad nation”.

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      @Majestic whoa, just an excellent analysis by a keyboard warrior who doesn’t even know where Dagestan is on the map.

      I’m sure you have very strong opinion about those terrorizing anti Genocide protesters and Palestinians all around the world.