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wombat [none/use name]@hexbear.net to the_dunk_tank@hexbear.netEnglish · 2 years ago

I present to you a "pro-Palestinian" liberal's advice for Gazans

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I present to you a "pro-Palestinian" liberal's advice for Gazans

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wombat [none/use name]@hexbear.net to the_dunk_tank@hexbear.netEnglish · 2 years ago
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  • emizeko [they/them]@hexbear.net
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    Dr. King’s policy was that nonviolence would achieve the gains for black people in the United States. His major assumption was that if you are nonviolent, if you suffer, your opponent will see your suffering and will be moved to change his heart. That’s very good. He only made one fallacious assumption: In order for nonviolence to work, your opponent must have a conscience. The United States has none.

    —Kwame Ture

  • BeamBrain [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    peaceful march

    They tried that, Israel mowed them down en masse, it didn’t lose an ounce of legitimacy in the eyes of international-community-1international-community-2

  • zed_proclaimer [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    “Just line up against the mass graves so the fascists can kill you easily” is quite the take from libs

    • Sickos [they/them, it/its]@hexbear.net
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      They literally did the “lie down and pretend to be dead and let them arrest you” “protest” during the George Floyd stuff. Liberal ideology has no room for effective political action.

      • zed_proclaimer [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        radliberalism is a disease and a potentially fatal one that will get you killed doing stupid pointless symbolic horseshit

  • dragongloss [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.net
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    Do libs live in the real world?

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      they think will if this happened, they will be information about situation from western press. they think western press will not try to focus on bad aspects of such protests ( they burn cars or something, they say some questinable stuff etc.). they think they will not drop their support for this because how their media paints the picture. root cause is that they don’t think they are fed propaganda, they are given truth. I remember a major protest happened in 2018 and israel killed 200 of protesters? did the regime fall, of course they did not. They don’t even know it. remember: “soviet/russian/chinese propaganda is so strong” is a lie. if something is a good propaganda, you would never know it and people there know it too. Actually the strongest propaganda belongs to west. Much fewer percentage of their people questin the propaganda

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      deleted by creator

  • Frank [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Just so everyone knows, they did lead a peaceful march a few years back and the Israelis shot thousands and thousands of them.

    • quarrk [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      Can someone link more info on this for my uninformed ass? “Palestine peace march” is not giving many useful results rn due to the recent events

      • LeZero [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018–2019_Gaza_border_protests

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          Concessions: None

          yea

    • Huldra [they/them, it/its]@hexbear.net
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      And Israel lost no legitimacy over it, the international media either treated it as business like usual, those rowdy middle easterners just failing to get along, or straight up told Palestinians that they had no right to protest like that and that every single civilian was actually either a willing or stupid human shield for cloaked hamas agents, there to attack the IDF.

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    They already tried that in 2018 and it got them shot by israelis. Also didnt israel killed their own pm (who himself is still fucking brutal and did war crimes) who tried some sort of compromise that heavily favors israel?

    • TheModerateTankie [any]@hexbear.net
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      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Yitzhak_Rabin

      The perpetrator was Yigal Amir, a 25-year-old former Hesder student and far-right law student at Bar-Ilan University. Amir had strenuously opposed Rabin’s peace initiative, particularly the signing of the Oslo Accords, because he felt that an Israeli withdrawal from the West Bank would deny Jews their “biblical heritage which they had reclaimed by establishing settlements”. Amir had come to believe that Rabin was a rodef, meaning a “pursuer” who endangered Jewish lives. The concept of din rodef (“law of the pursuer”) is a part of traditional Jewish law. Amir believed he would be justified under din rodef in removing Rabin as a threat to Jews in the territories.[15]

  • Dharma Curious@startrek.website
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    “But have you considered being rEsPeCtAbLe‽”

  • Graphite22 [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    this poster is a child

    • ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net
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      Last time I saw someone say this in a Hexbear comment I went and checked, and the poster was in fact 16 years old.

      This time I checked, the poster is an editor for Jacobin and a grown ass man.

      • wombat [none/use name]@hexbear.netOP
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        social democracy is objectively the moderate wing of fascism

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    The Palestinians should offer themselves to the butcher’s knife. They should throw themselves into the sea from cliffs. It would arouse the world and the people of Israel.

    Gandhi, twitter, 2023

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      Beat me to it. Easy to say other people should just lay down and die I guess.

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        he meant himself/Indians as well – he was that idealistic and had that poor of a understanding of why his protests worked in India. MLK was all around the much better political leader, down to reassessing his view on nonviolence.

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    The fuck is it with liberals finding the aesthetic of oppression sexy? If you die without fighting your oppressors, you’re a sexy hero. If you fight back and attempt to liberate yourself from your oppressors all of a sudden you’re a hideous beast and suddenly it’s your oppressors who need all the backup in the universe to protect them from your “unprovoked” attacks.

    It’s literally an ideology to disarm the oppressed and protect the function and integrity of oppressors (justifying mythos). These people want DSA type shit where they believe bringing a bunch of flowers to your own fucking funeral is somehow noble praxis. Surrendering yourself to the enemy is how we’re supposed to win struggles… Well, why aren’t they suggesting such shit for the Ukrainians? They conveniently support force only when it’s the worst people imaginable perpetrating it.

    Liberalism and the justifying mythos they leverage must be destroyed. Force works. Fuck these people who try to keep the oppressed docile.

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