• g7s@lemmy.ml
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    2 years ago

    Rather improved, if we destory it, where do we go back to? You can’t move forward with removing the ground you stand on

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      2 years ago

      Not sure what you are saying exactly. Are you advocating for a slow move rather than an instant systematic teardown or are you advocating we stop somewhere in the middle for a hybrid model?

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      2 years ago

      The progression of humanity was from hunter-gatherer to larger tribes to city-states to eventual feudalism by the late Antiquity all the way up until around 1600. We’ve not even had any kind of pure capitalism since then, only some hybrids of capital and socialism.

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        2 years ago

        First, what do you mean by “pure capitalism”?

        Second, the fact that some “socialism” is mixed into the capitalism is the only reason it hasn’t failed sooner.

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    2 years ago

    Didn’t Marx propose a synthesis of the two classes, thus eliminating the ruling class?

    I feel like Engles being his homie, Marx didn’t hate the rich, he was just critical of the economic system.

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        2 years ago

        Ah yes, the equality of bashing in the legs of the talented ballet dancers so the un-talented ones can be equal.

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        2 years ago

        Communism is inherently authoritarian. Essentially the voluntarism aspect on scales on the level of something like Israeli Kibbutzim. As soon as you go larger than that, you need the boot-heel of the state to enforce it.

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          There’s More than one kind of communism. Yes state Bolshevik communism is inexorably tied to authoritarianism. But the fact that you can’t imagine a communism that isn’t. Isn’t a problem or failing a communism. It’s a problem or failing of your understanding /education. So I am quite interested for you to explain it to me how small c communist style communes etc such as hippie communes Bohemian communes are inherently authoritarian. Good luck!