• 0 Posts
  • 37 Comments
Joined 19 天前
cake
Cake day: 2025年8月7日

help-circle





  • The difference between you and I is that I’m not fooled by the corporate proxy that is western media.

    And that’s only something you’re reading into this. I’m well aware of the problems with western media. Some of them are notorious for their lies, many are corporate controlled, and especially in the US, refuse to even acknowledge anti corporate sentiment (see how US media struggled to make sense of Luigi Mangione, for example), but they’re fairly transparent about it, and and sometimes they really are telling the truth.

    With some critical thinking, you can actually discern the truth out of that, without having to resort to Russian state media’s reports on the disastrous war Russia is waging.



  • I don’t even live in the US. I live in Europe, and I’m concerned about the freedom and safety of my fellow human beings, and I’m disgusted by how US imperial interests have suddenly decided to embrace Putin and is turning against Europe.

    My side is not enjoying global hegemony. I only wish Europe asserted itself against wannabe hegemons like the US and Russia, but political leaders here are too cowardly for that.

    I see American media increasingly parroting Putin’s viewpoints, because of this American realignment, and that’s what you’re asking me to blindly accept? No, fuck that. You talk a lot about others being controlled by propaganda, but I don’t see an ounce of self awareness in you.





  • Russia is no more a “brutal dictatorship” than the US is, or the UK, or any number of other capitalist shithole countries that call themselves “democracies.”

    Surely you must recognise how ridiculous that claim is.

    Sure, Trump would love for it to be true, and he’s certainly trying to, but even in the US, you can still publicly say this, while in Russia, you’d be headed for prison. Putin’s political opponents frequently fall out of windows or catch some polonium poisoning.

    These things are not the same, and pretending they are, makes you blind to how much worse they can still get. Russia is absolutely more of a brutal dictatorship than even the US, but especially than most European countries.

    I’m not denying the toxic influence of money either, but that’s still not comparable to the hold Putin has over his country and his media.


  • Read the rest of the discussion. To me, you come across as part of a mob trying to defend Russian state media. And yes, arguing that all of western media, despite its freedom of the press, diversity of ownership and various degrees of editorial independence, is just as bad as Russian state media, is defending it.

    I’m not arguing that all of western media is perfect; much of it is corrupt (especially in the US, but that is not all of the west). But not all of it is that bad. And even the corrupt ones frequently disagree with each other. That gives us access to much more diverse reporting than Russian state media provides.

    I am aware that making sense of that diversity requires critical thought, which is in increasingly short supply in recent years.

    Also note that the link you shared, of Trump flanked by billionaires, comes from western media.





  • Pretty fucked to say that murdering journalists isn’t “brutally silencing dissent” just because other sources report on it, sometime.

    Yeah. Is that something you wanted to deny? Or are you desperately trying to put words in my mouth when I said the exact opposite?

    Besides, the western media have done everything they can to downplay it without losing credibility entirely.

    Then you’re reading the wrong media. I’ve been reading about these atrocities constantly.

    Bullshit

    It’s happening. Dutch government just fell apart over this (and the Dutch government has been pretty awful in their blind support of Israel so far).

    You need to come out of your bubble and inform yourself.