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      True, but these are not the words of innocent men.

      Trump spokesperson Steven Cheung told Newsweek in a Saturday email that it is “unprofessional” to ask if the binder was sold to Russia. “What proof do you have?” he asked.

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        It sounds like Trump spokesperson Steven Cheung also has no clue, but he’s seen this one enough times to know that his outright denial would probably be contradicted by Trump within the week.

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        Ah, the ol’ Criminal reverse burden/onus of proof. Counter with the old motherly trick, why might I have reason to even need to bring this up with you…

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        It sounds like this story originated with Trump to create a fake news story to distract from the real news of his court cases.

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          It’s applicable, but it’s also not being used because Biden didn’t do anything. You don’t say it’s unprofessional to ask the question and then ask what proof do you have, especially as a spokesperson. It’s ‘how to be ridiculous and look like you did it 101’.

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      This whole binder story smells like the kind of news stories we were fed during the early years of his presidency. It’s so 2017, throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks.

      We don’t need any new controversies. We need to see the felonies that have already been charged be prosecuted intelligently and effectively.

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      Yeah, I don’t believe it, but only because he’s too incompetent to have kept that kind of high treason a secret.

      I absolutely would believe that he kept it with his poop magazines and it was stolen, or copied, by the Carpet King of Tampa, or a foreign intelligence asset. Either one is just as likely.

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    When Trump hosted the KGB diplomats in the White House, when he confiscated his translators notes after his meeting with Putin, after he betrayed the Kurds, the media would ask, “Why did Trump do this?”

    There were always a range of possible reasons, but only one that explained them all with perfect sense. I suggest everyone read American Kompromat by Craig Unger. There is a trail of circumstantial evidence Trump has been a Russian asset since at least 1986.

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          If the description I’ve heard is correct (that he asked two prostitutes to pee on the bed because Obama slept in it once) there is probably going to be a lot of racism, the peeing itself which is gross, and let’s face it the prostitutes were probably underage. I could see that hurting him, give the right is so obsessed with Epstein and grooming, but they’ve already waved every terrible thing he has done away so you’re probably right. The right wouldn’t care.

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      The P in P-tape is pedophilia

      He is known to have raped underage girls and pootin has the goods, just as likely through Epstein

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    Business is business, isn’t that what he says? Business as usual for a bloke who keeps top secret documents in his spare bathroom.

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    May have? This guy would sell his own daughter if he could. And I’m not eve talking about the one whose name he doesn’t know, I’m talking about the one he wants to fuck.

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    It’s obvious that Trump sold out US intelligence assets across the world, leading to major setbacks in our intel community and the deaths of multiple people, so if this is true… will it make any difference? At all? Trump could come out and declare himself a vassal of the New Russian Empire and his followers would still lick his boots, and ‘moderates’ would say “Well, what about the DEMONRATS”

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      Oh thank goodness there is no merit to this headline. Oh wait, it is still a plausible situation no matter where you read the headline. Nevermind.

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          Have you been paying attention to the journalism industry lately? We’re lucky to get “plausible” half the time.

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          Is the headline false? I think Mary trump said those words. I’d love to hear why you think they faked this quote.

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            I mean, you can read the article. I don’t see that quote anywhere.

            But you also kind of implied “it’s fine if it’s not true since it’s plausible” that’s more what I was commenting on

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              "One of those possibilities was that the documents inside the binder “were sold or given to Russia,” according to her blog post. "

              -the article I didn’t read, quoting Mary trump’s blog

              So she at least typed this distinct, concise thought. I said it was plausible because they had found a BOATLOAD of classified docs in trump’s possession after he was out of office. Considering this binder the quote is about has not been recovered in any of the raids they performed and with the truth about trump’s financial situation coming to light I can picture a means, motive and opportunity. So sure, ‘plausible’ is the best term I can think of until more solid evidence is presented.

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                Ha shit, one of those ads must have popped up and made me jump that paragraph or something. I really did read it and didn’t see that the first time through

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    Oh so she just learned that he may have sold a binder? She wasn’t just holding onto this little pearl in order to sell another book was she? Any of Trump’s circle, even his ostensibly “nice” niece Mary, is just an opportunist looking to cash in on the chaos.

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    Oh geeze, Trump might have done X very bad thing, claims family member with a grudge with 0 actual information. In my personal news, I might sacrifice goats to worship Satan, so claims my religious aunt who recently discovered I’m not religious.

    This is trashy clickbait, Der Orangenführer is an un-American traitor and his crimes need no embellishment.

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      Agreed. I despise Trump but we can hold ourselves to a higher standard than getting whipped into a frenzy when someone with a personal vendetta writes a blog post with no new information.

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    ” There is no evidence showing that Trump sold anything to Russia. Trump’s critics have long accused him of working with Russia, but various investigations have not confirmed that.

    EDIT- ROFL @ all the downvotes by all the ignorant knuckleheads that think that their definition of justice overrides simple logic. She has no evidence to support this. It says so in the article. Which is what I quoted. It’s right fucking there. Yet everyone here has come to the conclusion that it MUST have happened. It couldn’t have NOT happened. Despite no evidence….

    and those same people are crying about how Trump isn’t following the rules of the law?

    Imagine if we persecuted him based on what she said. Yeah. Wet dream, right?

    Just remember. To live in a worked where we persecute based on no evidence, you have to accept it both ways.

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      It’s true that there isn’t evidence that he sold anything, but let’s look at what we do know:

      The whereabouts of the binder are currently unknown as it went missing during the last days of Trump’s presidency, Reuters’ source said.

      The info in the binder:

      The binder in question contained raw intelligence that the United States and its North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) allies collected on Russia’s alleged election interference in 2016, when Trump beat his Democratic opponent Hillary Clinton for the presidency, among other documents, according to Reuters who spoke with a source familiar with the matter.

      Trump would be very high on that suspect list although, in my mind, the likely conclusion of him taking it is that those documents were destroyed rather than sold.

      I would counter that, given the timeline and information, it’s unlikely that anyone else would want to take those documents.