Usually I am sympathetic towards people losing their jobs. However, that goes out the window when their government is hostile and I am watching family struggle due to the trade war.

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    To me, an American, here’s how this reads: In past economic downturns, the US government could at least construct a plausible story of our resilience and strength because of things like “inflation is high all over the world, but ours is lower than other trading partners” or “unemployment rate is higher than we’d like but still lower than other developed nations” and things like that. This time around, it’s clear in many ways that our federal (and often state) governments are making things so much worse for us than necessary, not doing anything that’s effective to fix the problems, and other developed countries / trading partners / former allies (even those who are facing similar issues and/or dealing with Trump’s shenanigans) are doing better than us in metrics that are important for the working class.

    Believe me when I say, I’ll be pointing this out and rubbing it in MAGA supporters’ faces along with everything else. Even a mediocre president and incompetent congress could have maintained the slow but steady recovery we were in the midst of before Trump took over.

    Instead, they supported and elected a terrible president and malicious / complicit congress, and the resulting damage to our country, the economy, and our reputation is now cemented in. They voted to fuck everybody over, which tracks with the rapist and pedophile supporting crowd.

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      I’ll be pointing this out and rubbing it in MAGA supporters’ faces along with everything else

      GLWT, most of them live in a different reality

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        My thoughts exactly. Why bother? They’re hopeless if they haven’t figured it out by now, so you’re just antagonizing an idiot. I’d rather spend my limited capacity doing something productive, though antagonizing idiots might be productive for some.

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      Well said, maybe one day our nation’s can be friends again but it will be a long hard process.

      Your country will never be what it used to be and that may be hard for some of you to accept. I hope you guys come to your senses soon.

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    To the Americans crying about how unfair we’re being by celebrating their economic loss and how “what are we supposed to do about our administration?”

    Now you know a fraction of how every person in a country under US sanctions feels. The exact logic you’re railing against is the same logic your country applies to Cuba.

    The difference being those people have to deal with the immiserstion of brutal poverty and you just have to deal with having to find a new job and some mean Canadians online poking fun at you. Cry me a river.

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      You can dress it up any way you like, delighting in innocent people’s suffering makes you unequivocally a huge asshole and always will.

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        You are paying the price of stupidity and it is just the beginning. It is not about being Happy or Sad, it is just how life corrects itself and show people how stupid they have been.

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        YOU VOTED FOR YOUR MISSERY AND IT AFFECTED THE WORLD AND NOW YOU ARE SURPRISED PEOPLE ARE NOT SUPPORTING YOU.

        YOUR COUNTRY IS THE WORLD TERRORIST AND THE FACT THAT ONE MAN CAN AFFECT THE WORLD ECONOMY LIKE YOUR ORANGE MUSSOLINI HAS IS PROOF OF IT.

        YES, PEOPLE ARE HAPPY THAT YOUR COUNTRY IS FEELING A SLIGHT SLIVER OF WHAT IT HAS DISHED OUT TO OTHERS IN OVER 250 YEARS.

        YOUR IGNORANCE IS WHAT FUELS YOUR COMMENTS AND YOUR “EXCEPTIONALISM” IS ALL YOU KNOW.

        IMAGINE THINKING YOU ARE THE BEST NATION ON EARTH ALL WHILE TERRORIZING MOST OTHER NATIONS FOR OVER 100 YEARS.

        THIS IS WHY WE ARE PISSED.

        NOW FUCK OFF AND GET RID OF YOUR FASCISTS.

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              Absolutely does actually

              One who is strongly partial to one’s own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.

              Intolerance of people from any country will always be bigotry, nothing you or I could do to change that regardless

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                Not having sympathy due to the government you guys elected is not the same as intolerance. Stop acting like a victim

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                  I’m not a victim, I didn’t lose my job and become homeless only to be mocked for my suffering even though I hated and opposed trump. (An actual thing that positively will become true.)

                  I’m just an inconvenient truth teller for you all. There are no words you can say to justify mocking the suffering of innocent people which we all know will happen. We both know it and that these justifications are for making yourselves feel better. Good luck with that.

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                But by your own definition of bigotry there’s none of that to be found in this thread. Sure, you could construe an intolerance of people from the US (even though it’s more like intolerance of their many years of harmful bullshit) but there’s absolutely no partiality toward any group. It’s purely frustration at the US and many of its citizens’ stubborn unwillingness to own up to the countless problems their country has caused across generations, let alone right now.

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                  I’m intolerant of the US in the same way someone might be lactose intolerant. When you find out, it doesn’t mean you immediately hate all dairy, you just have to start considering what items are worth the consequences.

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                  Ps is it “many years of harmful bullshit” that are going to be homeless because they lost their job? You all cannot defend this shit and you know what you are, you just think it’s justified because others are worse

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        50+% of the US is not innocent, so fuck off

        edit: sorry, 50+% of eligible voters. not of the whole population

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          Yes you are right, because:

          • Everyone votes
          • No matter what, justifying disgusting hatred against the trump opponents who just lost their job is completely defensible and totally not a piece of shit move.

          I probably will “fuck off” soon. Have your echo chamber of mentally distraught hatred and justify it all you want

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        Show me one goddamn person who’s happy. Nobody is fucking delighted about any of this shit your country has done. Even MAGA can no longer lie to themselves.

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        Sometimes the baby gets thrown out with the bath water. It sucks, but that’s life (at least, that’s what people say).

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            Wow, a fan. Sorry I don’t pay attention to the internet names but I used to read Dick Tracy in the newspaper as a kid. Your heart seems in the right place you just need to step further back a little to see the whole forest.

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        Maybe those innocent people should haul a guillotine down to DC and loudly complain to those responsible for this mess instead of pointing fingers at other countries.

        Y’all get no sympathy from me. Take care of your fuckong fascism problem. The second amendment is useful for more than shooting children in classrooms.

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          Take care of your fuckong fascism problem. The second amendment is useful for more than shooting children in classrooms.

          What a useful thing to say. Because all Americans are murderers or at least delight in school shootings, all we have to do is violently overthrow the most powerful government in history. This is totally not the thinking of a brain damaged child.

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            Oh wow! The exact same sentiment that USians were repeating time and again for the past four years about Russians, is verboten when it comes to USians themselves. What a surprise!

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        Not many innocents. They voted for this, and a third didn’t care to vote at all

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          Yes let us justify our disgusting behavior by grouping in innocent people with others. Feels like there’s a name for that. Hmm.

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            They are grouped. It’s called the United States. They, as a country, voted for this. They, as a country, tolerate this.

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              Not even close to a majority did, not that even if a majority did it would justify you gleefully laughing about newly created homeless people who fucking didn’t.

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                Tough shit! You’re fucking doing it. It doesn’t matter why you’re fucking doing it. If you’re doing it because your system of governance is broken, that’s still your fucking problem to solve. What, you want us to come down there and fucking solve it for you?? What are you even doing here? What stunted emotional need are you trying to meet right now?

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            Well hopefully this will be a lesson learned for the apathetic populous that allowed this to happen.

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              Indeed, some “justified” bigotry will teach us a lesson. Perhaps next time we’ll try some shit like the Jan 6 morons. How about we try an even stupider version of it. Express a bit more hatred for us and any day we’ll do it.

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                YOU ARE SUCH A TYPICAL AMERICAN, INSTEAD OF DOING SOMETHING YOU LASHE OUT AT THOSE OBSERVING LIKE IT IS OUR FAULT.

                CLEAN YOUR ROOM BIG BOY AND SHOW THE REST OF THE WORLD WHAT AMERICAN EXCEPTIONALISM REALLY IS.

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        So all the USians celebrating that Russia is cut off from Western trade and SWIFT, and that its economy is failing, are huge assholes?

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          Did you actually think I wouldn’t say yes to that? “No, it’s fine to do it when I hate an entire people” /s

          Literally the entire point I’m making is that it is horrendous to blindly cast hatred upon thousands/millions of strangers.

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            But yet you have no words for your own country only others.

            SHUT THE FUCK UP, YOUR WORDS ARE MEANINGLESS AT THIS POINT FOR THE REST OF THE WORLD.

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              I literally haven’t seen that come up. My eyes have been opened about this “Canadians are so nice” thing though. Total bullshit.

              Edit: The fact that you bring up Russians out of the blue like this on Lemmy is interesting for me personally too because my go-to example, on this topic, of what I wouldn’t do is wish ill on the Russian people as a whole because of Putin’s misdeeds. The reason it is my go-to example is that I know Putin has a lot of public support there.

              It will never be okay to wish death and despair on large groups of innocent people because of what oligarchs do. It just makes you seem like a thoughtless and heartless bigoted piece of shit if you do it.

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                Obviously all Canadians being nice was bullshit lol, it’s a textbook stereotype. I’m afraid you have no one to blame but yourself for taking that at face value.

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                It literally doesn’t matter. It is total bullshit, but it is human bullshit.

                Some will cry, some will gnash, some will joke, some will mock, some will defend, some will be hopelessly devoid of nuance.

                It doesn’t matter because it’s playing right into the hands of the ruling class. There is zero fucking difference between all of this, no matter where you’re from, not functionally.

                No matter which people from where at the time are spouting whichever opinion, it doesn’t matter.

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                  Ohh you got me! I’m a huge hypocrite. Because what I was saying is that I take great pleasure in knowing every newly homeless Canadian absolutely deserves it! Hahahha I’m fucking evil but it’s justified!! /s

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        Ever heard of realpolitik? Being righteous doesn’t matter on a geopolitical scale, especially not when it comes to an imperial superpower currently in the midst of its death throes. I’m afraid you’ll have to come to terms with billions of people understandably revelling in hundreds of years of a country’s utter nonsense finally returning itself to sender. Might be irrational, but it’s definitely not without precedent.

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            Mhm… I’m sure you have some solid reasoning for that claim that you’re withholding for good cause and not for a complete lack of substance.

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              But you’re not an asshole because the very shitty belief you have is part of a bigger picture, or something. Pathetic.

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                THIS RIGHT HERE IS WHY AMERICANS GET NO SYMPATHY FROM THE REST OF THE WORLD.

                THIS RIGHT HERE, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IS AMERICAN EXCEPTIONALISM.

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                  I’m guessing there’s a lot said that you don’t understand. I tire of you. Sure will miss these thoughtful takes though.

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    How about you Americans let the rest of us enjoy a little bit of what you’ve been doing to all of us for the entire existence of the US.

    You don’t gotta do shit, just don’t be a bitch about people laughing at you for the same shit y’all laughed at everyone else for.

    And yea I know it’s not YOU it’s your country.

    This is exactly the same behavior as when men come out of the wood work and say “I’m not like that” when people start taking about toxic masculinity and shit.

    It’s not all Americans but it’s always an American.

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      same shit y’all laughed at everyone else for.

      A moronic, false thing to say and no I won’t be starting even after this display of widespread assholry though. I actually appreciate it though, my blocklist and user tags are in a much better spot after this thread.

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        How about you block the entirety of lemmy and just stop using it. We would be better of not having you here.

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          That’s a pretty good idea. The couple thousand cool people seem more and more rare in the sea of absolute dogshit people.

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    I’ll join the Americans in the thread in reminding that this is less of Canada vs US and more of the 99% vs the 1%. A struggle that exist on each side of the border with the 1% cooperating across the border. I say this as someone who actively dislikes plenty of American culture. 😅

    I too enjoyed this juicy bit of schadenfreude tho.

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      Canadian here, and I agree. Sadly global products tend to lead directly to the 1%, and its best if most people buy from local and small businesses – for the environment too. And to donate / help poor countries so they can be better self sufficient.

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        help poor countries so they can be better self sufficient.

        So so many problems would be solved by this. Help at macro country-to-country level, not on individual level.

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    Shedding jobs is literally what our administration has set out to do. Its what the Fed has been aiming for. They recently voted to hold interest rates, with some members voting to raise them. Idk who these “analysts” are, but they’re fucking morons. Even if interest rates were cut, it would take like 6 months to a year to see wages and employment bounce back.

    I’m def not saying it is good to be losing jobs, but it is intentional.

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      I don’t know if lowering rates would help anything at this time. I think it’d mostly just go into the AI bubble who’s goal is to reduce jobs.

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    I guess I am technically employed currently, but it’s not in my educated field that payed way better so I would like some more of those jobs specifically please.

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    Unless you somehow know those jobs were only trump voters, that’s a pretty shitty thing to take pleasure in. The majority of us in this shithole are against everything he’s doing. Yeah yeah I know I’m a horrible person for not singlehandedly murdering the administration.

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      No its the minority most either support him or don’t care enough to get off their fat asses.

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        Maybe don’t comment on things you know nothing about. And maybe don’t fat shame an entire nation.

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          The US deserves to be shamed for many things. As a whole, it’s mega shitty.

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    I would use that Notification Settings button at the bottom to disable all those apps’ notifications. Most of my apps are denied notification permission unless they are for messaging or necessary. Makes the phone less hassling