• Muscle_Meteor@discuss.tchncs.de
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    $177,000! I dont make that in a week!

    But the financial realities of an entire city’s dental health was probably the cost of one employee, wow, yeah i think passing this off to a higher level of government is the way to go

  • GrackleBirb@lemmy.ca
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    For the record because of this nonsense I not only use a fluoride rinse but also use Prevident (high fluoride toothpaste) and Sensodyne with NOVOMIN as I genetically was blessed with soft enamel. I feel badly for children growing up without even basic exposure to fluoride because of crackpot antivaxx FB moms.

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      As someone with genetically shitty enamel AND bruxism, i’m double fucked

      I only realized i’m living in a non-fluoride municipality a few years ago

      What are my options for adding more fluoride to my teeth without poisoning myself or needing a prescription?

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        The Prevident toothpaste I mentioned is OTC in Canada as is the fluoride rinse. None of this is Rx has high fluoride products tend to be in the US

        1. Colgate PreviDent - available at Shoppers Rexall London Drugs Jean Coutu etc not Walmart usually

        2. OptiRinse Fluoride Rinse - available same places as above

        3. Sensodyne Clinical Repair - this has fluoride and NOVOMIN a newer ingredient that repairs enamel

        I use the PreviDent at night and the Sensodyne in the morning. I also have bruxism managed now with a mouthguard, medication, and improved by orthodontic work.

        The above combo with use of the OptiRinse once or twice a week has saved my enamel and slowed down the expanse of my extensive collection of dental work (crowns implants etc)

        Note that the Prevident is expensive for toothpaste but a lot cheaper than a root canal or crown so I go with it

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    What was the problem they had with flourid again? Gives you a touch of the 'tism or makes your frogs gay?

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      Too much fluoride injested softens bone, while when applied to the enamal externally it reinforces the filament bonds of enamel. So there’s that argument?

      But they are also comparing old generation to 12 years later. I’m sure there is correlation with increased sugar drinks, and people losing jobs with benefits and not getting as many dental visists for fluoride treatment.

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      “My naturopath and the Yuka app told me it is tHe ToXicS so I advocated for its elimination. I ask the questions. I do the Facebook research. I am accredited by the TikTok Academy of Science. I know my body. I know my health. We must protect the children from toxics, vaccines, pharma, and lesbian” - that kind of person happened to fluoride.

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      Calgary was facing a big infrastructure cost to update our EOL fluoridation system. Three counsellors drove the charge to get rid of fluoridation entirely: a ‘stop all government spending!’ con, an anti-science earth mother type, and a progressive who kept screaming ‘we need to address dental care as a societal issue!’

      And so we saw tooth decay climb for a decade. When we finally decided to put it back in, the cost was higher than the initial upgrade plus a decade of maintenance would have cost.

      Idjits,

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      In many cases, it looks like a funding issue - it’s admittedly a pretty huge expense to be handled at the municipal level.

      The various conspiracy theories are just icing on the cake.

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      I think in this case it was a budget thing (at least officially).

      Saved $ 177k per year by pushing the costs onto kids. Hoorah! /s

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    The latest information published in 2022 shows 38.8 per cent of the country adds fluoride to municipal water, with little to no fluoride in New Brunswick, Quebec, Newfoundland and Labrador, Yukon, and British Columbia.

    I was absolutely floored by this.

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      Any dentist in Toronto can tell you what Montreal teeth look like.

      This whole thing started by a dentist who was investigating “brown stain” in a town in Colorado. Town water had very high levels of natural fluoride, causing mottling on teeth, but very hard enamel and almost no tooth decay. By the 1930s, the best levels were figured out. Now there is 100 years of data, but scientists now are considered wizards.

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      Some places (like in BC) have naturally occurring fluoride. It’s at like 1/4 the level but it’s still there.

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    To many conspiracy believers, even in government. I guess I believe in the conspiracy that they are conspiracy theorists and they kicked the can down the road on planning as a way to stop fluoridation without actually looking like conspiracy theorists.

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    Part of the Halifax area hasn’t had fluoridated water for years because of poor planning:

    In a post on its website in January[2025], Halifax Water said the fluoride tank at Lake Major was at the end of its useful life and was becoming a safety risk in 2020, which is why the decision was made to take it offline.

    Staff began plans to replace it in 2021-22 and a capital project was initiated, but record-setting rainfall events over the summer of 2023 “caused significant changes in lake water quality.” Those changes meant more chemicals were being used in the water treatment process to meet compliance obligations.

    The plant provides drinking water to customers in Dartmouth, Cole Harbour, Eastern Passage, North Preston, Westphal and Burnside.

    Shouldn’t Halifax Water have known ahead of time that the tank was approaching end of life and prepared for it? They didn’t even tell us fluoridation had stopped until years later, and it’s going to be a few more years before it’s back.

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      Shouldn’t Halifax Water have known ahead of time that the tank was approaching end of life and prepared for it?

      We’ve both driven the roads. I’d joke that ‘planning’ isn’t really what they do there, but really it’s the population: low, spread out, and those two things kill infrastructure budgets.

      So they probably knew about it and were magically hoping to find the money earlier.