• Ardha@lemmy.world
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    Yeah giving away the weakness of all our equipments iranians hurt to china is such a huge deterrant bruv

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      Not an idiot they are an intelligence asset. When all the evidence shows America couldn’t have and isn’t winning the war, anyone pushing the war agenda isn’t just a retard they are probably knowingly pushing the psyop. Any blue check claiming America has done anything but blunder this entire conflict probably gets paid by the CIA

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    China couldn’t give a shit about supposed US deterrence.
    Henry knows that, he also knows that China receives the largest share of oil exports passing through the Strait of Hormuz, accounting for 37.7% of the trade route’s total volume.
    That is why they had their own blockade.

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        So China compensated from other sources?
        Used alternative energy sources?
        Used reserves?

        It proves only that the US plan failed.
        That doesn’t negate their motives

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          The US didn’t have a plan, lmao. Israel convinced them that Iran would fall in days or weeks. Israel is a bloodthirsty settler colonial project and Americans are removed. A match made in heaven.

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        I’m not sure how many US imperial troops died, but they did lose a good amount of aircraft:

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          Ehh I’d argue that money was already lost down the black hole of defense spending.

          Looking forward to seeing how they’ll pay for the replacements

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          So glad that American’s voted for the “No more wars” president while hoping for a better cost of living.

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            The US is not a democracy, its a one-party capitalist empire, and even its controlled opposition wing wanted to go to war with Iran for a long time. The democrats under Biden also massively increased funding to Israel to help destroy palestine:

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    The US is basically a “this is good for bitcoin”, but as a country.

    Its slow, humiliating, public suicide is even more pathetic than great britain’s.

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    hey usa, china is building tons of high-speed rail. they’re the leaders in decarbonizing their energy mix. they’re building tons of housing to handle population growth. they’re financing infrastructure projects in the global south. why not try beating them at all that?

    no? just wars again? okay.

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    It is absolutely maddening to see American pundits defend every dumbshit, ruinous, genocidal policy over the last twenty years by pointing at China and claiming, “We had to show them we were the boss”.

    From AI to A-bombs, there’s nothing you can’t get away with by insisting “China Bad! This will stop them!”

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      It’s a very convenient go-to excuse. And as long as the American public keeps lapping it up, those in power will keep counting on it.

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        And not even the country’s, just that of a few old pedophiles trying to rape some life out of children in a vain attempt to feel youth again before the grave takes them

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    How can people be so delusional?

    “When their salary depends on it” is a decent first answer.

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    I think Americans should ban debate clubs. Clearly they’re only teaching how to create mental convolutions instead of creating sound arguments.

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      Oh no, debate clubs are actually very good at teaching kids how to discern good information from bad, and how to make proper arguments with supporting evidence. Right wing media teaches gish gallop and never be wrong, it’s these two ideas that have taken over discourse.

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        Really depends on the debate club, there are plenty in conservative areas that are basically just right-wing influencer spawning grounds

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        I will have to take your word on that. Got to admit my opinion is based on a limited set of people I had the displeasure of interacting with.

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      Americans should consider doing mathematical convolution instead. Very important for functional analysis with deep connections to the Laplace, and thus Fourier, transforms.

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    I’d put money on China being able to pwn the USA with the click of a button. We know about salt typhoon, and there’s been documented backdoors in IoT devices and some Unitree bots. Imagine all the things we don’t know about. Especially regarding power generation and general aging infrastructure.

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        Tell that to Saddam and Gaddafi.

        lol the downvote. Did those governments that no longer exist actually win the wars that caused them to cease existing?

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            Do you think Saddam’s government won? The US won the war with Iraq if not the war with the insurgency.

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            1st Iraq was a clear win, both militarily and strategically. 2nd Iraq and Libya were strategic victories because the real purpose was to maintain the petrodollar, which was attained.

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              Actually the reason your government gave was to get the weapons of mass destruction from Saddam, which was proven to be a lie, so how did you win an illegal war based on fake goals?

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                You believe US when they state the war reasons and goals? Lol, lmao even. They achieved a real war goal of stopping Iraq and Libya from breaking dollar monopoly on oil sale.

                Also it’s not my government, my government was actually quite honest, they admitted they went there to bootlick USA and loot Iraq.

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                  Uhh no, I’m saying they didn’t win the war because they couldn’t meet their stated goals, I wouldn’t trust that country as far as I could throw it.

                  My bad for assuming, btw.

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      An open conflict between the US and china would probably end with exactly zero winners and an uninhabitable glowing piece of rock orbiting the sun. Maybe the cockroaches can then find a better path to communism.

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        I feel like nukes are more just showpieces than item that anyone actually considers using.

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    Literally the equivalent of a homeless libertarian laughing at well to do, middle class Chinese people because he thinks he’s better off

    demonstrating that the US is willing

    Yes, because America is famous for the ambiguity around whether or not we’d go to war with global South nations

    and able

    No

    In that sense, it was already won

    The government can behave like a rabid dog, but China would Old Yeller America