All of these issues are from today.
Never had this issue with neovim :3
I never once understood why people want to write code in a browser that isn’t even the same instance as the one they likely already have open. I can’t understand the mindset of a person who wants JavaScript to power the tools they use. Is it because they hate their hardware? Or the environment?
I hate the environment, that’s why I use vscode. After a long day outside, rolling coal on my 6x6 and littering out in nature, I come home and relax by turning on vscode and let it idle as I throw old tires in the fireplace. If you hate the environment like I do, use vscode.
Because it’s a well-made, useful, simple but extensible program? I really don’t care if it’s “a browser” (it’s not, just part of one). And it being not just a tab in my existing browser lets it do critical IDE things like write files and open a terminal (and be easier to find and differentiate from my research, product management, and testing tabs).
showing off your 12k monitor, eh?
Thats pretty impressive it it was that bad it generated that many reports.
Id only expect to see that in a alpha channel for those excited to try something new.
VSCode
Found the issue
Helix is nice, speaking of which.
Doesn’t seem like much of a VSCode replacement though since it is terminal based
I replaced VS Code for me on every way I used it, both at work at at home. Been using it professionally for about two years now. It has LSP support, code actions, local and global symbol jumping, jumping to definition, etc, etc, etc. All I need to be productive without the use of AI. 👍👍 (Maybe there’s even a way to use AI with it as well, but idgaf about that.)
For the record, TUI applications can definitely do a good job of replacing GUI applications. It is not inherent to the terminal that it can’t.
Feel free to correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought it was inherent to the terminal that you can’t position the cursor and select text using the mouse, and also inherent that there are not right-click menus.
If you don’t want to use a mouse in your code editor that’s a valid preference, but these are very different styles of programs and exist in separate categories. Personally I was using Atom before I was using VSCodium, and I really like most design choices of the latter, it’s basically everything I always wanted an IDE to be like. Don’t want to stop using the mouse.
Programms can print special codes to position the cursor wherever and they can also enable mouse events. Helix does support selecting with mouse
I’ll have to check it out, I heard Zed is great too
Zed even has Helix bindings! But I recommend Gram, in that case, which is a fork of Zed with all the AI bullshit ripped out. 👍👊
Yeah but I am using the AI bullshit so that wouldn’t be a plus
Shout out helix!! Big fan!
🧬❤️ Yeah!
I believe upvoting isn’t enough
Helix ROCKS
Yeah baby! 👊
I thought that was a CVS receipt
VSC and CVS are anagrams of each other after all
Vscodium
Practically speaking, why would you pick Gram over Zed? I mean actual advantages
You are ruining the velocity! How are they supposed to tell shareholders they’re delivering faster than humans, if they keep getting bogged down with issues!? Everyone, stop opening issues!
You know, It’s time I play with VSCodium again.
I used it for a long time but ended up having issues with the SSH plugin and the Python support that forced me to go back to regular VSCode. But that was so long ago they surely fixed it by now…Just be aware MS did the MS thing of not permitting some plugins to work on non vscode installations like the corporate dicks they are.
vscodium is pretty compared to the first-party vscode builds. i forget the exact details, i think i was having issues with the dev container plugins not working at all.
i’ve been using zed.dev with all of the AI features turned off and its been nice. it’s probably a matter of time before they enshittify too, but for now i’m enjoying it.
Don’t ask me how it’s named but I believe there was a fork of the project relatively recently in reaction due to some AI stuff they did.
The fork has all AI features scrubbed out
what did you use instead, especially for Python?
I asked in a random thread about linux IDEs, thinking there’d be several to the level of VSCode and didn’t find anything recommended that was particularly new, and ended up using pulsar for taking notes (it keeps sessions with “unsaved” files somewhere so I just dump stuff into there, manages searches of file contents from certain folders like VS code) and VS Codium for development (it has ctrl+click to find usages/takes to declerations) , but I haven’t gotten python integration working on there, and would like to try something new out.
I don’t want to use Kate or NeoVim since I want a GUI and integration with “compilers”/interpreters by using buttons and such, but I haven’t found anything that doesn’t seem like its from the late 90s early 00s, which doesn’t work with my shitty eyes and 1080 displays.
PyCharm? Spacemacs ? Both work fine as Python IDEs (so can neovim, but it does’t have a GUI)
I’ve been using zed, it has solid python integration and is way faster than vscode (oss or otherwise). I believe python debugging is supported now, but it’s not quite as advanced as PyCharm.
Not who you’re asking, but weighing in anyways. I use VSCodium for C# and Python development on Linux. Only extensions I needed was ms-python.python, ms-python.debugpy, and I use ms-python.vscode-python-envs
For c# it’s dotrush only.
All works. Step through debugging all works, no issues.
As I said, I didn’t find an alternative, ended up just going back to regular Microsoft VSCode, I’ll poke around VSCodium again and see if I can get Python to work as I’m expecting it to.
I suppose there is PyCharm Community Edition but I haven’t really used it enough to recommend. It also feels like Jetbrains IDEs end up being heavier than Electron, somehow. Depending on your use it might be overkill.
I also know there’s that super hyped Rust based one called Zed that’s supposed to be really lightweight and fast, but who knows if they’re even focusing on that anymore given their whole homepage is now AI AI AI…Thanks for the picture of the landscape, I guess for my dad tier motives I’ll just stick to what I have.
I even have fancy project based theming to stop me from getting confused in my old age.
Last time I said “No! This is getting silly!” and decided to try all those language-server GUI text editors I lost a couple of weeks and decided to nuke my emacs config and make LSP actually work there instead.
The red color in the syntax highlighting is the most annoying for me
How I can learn???
Don’t forget it comes with copilot which will send all your code for training by default.
You’d have to have opted out on your GitHub to prevent that.
It does not come with Copilot, that’s an extension you need to install and then sign in using your Github account. I’m a Microslop hater as much as any sane person, and people should definitely opt out if they want to use Copilot. But don’t spread FUD making people think it uploads everything to Microsoft just when using VS Code. It’s perfectly fine to use VS Code without installing the Copilot extension.
Okay, thanks for correcting me
I don’t have copilot but still have all the chat windows when I open vscode, but maybe that’s legacy
You can disable those in the settings (I forgot the name), or just install VsCodium.
