Whether it’s jokes about Snap packages or criticism of Canonical’s decisions, mocking Ubuntu often feels like the default attitude in parts of the Linux community.

To be fair, Canonical has made decisions over the years that have not always been well received, and some of the criticisms of Ubuntu and the direction it’s taken have their own merit. Yet, the derisive way Ubuntu is often talked about online isn’t particularly fair and, frankly, misses the point.

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    They’ve about a half dozen stupid decisions just in the past decade that has garnered the tarnish on their reputation. Trying to rationalize it won’t make the issues go away.

    Note that this same hate sure isn’t going towards Debian.

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      Debian, Debian never changes to the point it’s almost a bad thing. But it’s stable AF. Ubuntu is your typical frat/tech bro. Move fast and break shit you rely on. Native packaging? Yep. Core utils? Of course! Broken broken broken.

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        Canonical clearly has too many resources and they waste those resources on positions that don’t need to exist.

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        That’s just the difference between an LTS and everything else though. Debian is meant to be slow to release, battle tested, and focused on stability.

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    It seems that canonical does not change their view about their decisions, why should anyone else change their view about canonical?

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    Yeah this is BS. They had one the best Linux contributers in their corner developing his LXC for Canonical but even he eventually was tired if their shenanigans and re-invented LXD in the new and improved incus.

    I’ve tried Ubuntu a couple times in the past 5 years and it’s the sone of same type of frustrations I had with Windows.

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    By far my number one reason for hating Ubuntu is that a lot of lazy software publishers think that only supporting Ubuntu is good enough to reach Linux users, even though (as this article points out) they’re one of the more contrarian and overall difficult to work with distros in the ecosystem.

    Its less of a problem today thanks to containers. Even when a dev doesn’t publish a flatpak, you can usually run it in a podman/docker container, or in a toolbox/distrobox.

    Still, it pisses me off when I see that happening (even though it’s technically not Canonical’s fault)

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    Do people still spend a lot of time complaining about all the dumb things Ubuntu did? I haven’t heard much about it for a few years, really.