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    LMFAO. This meme makes me second-hand embarrassed for Europeans. For 3 reasons.

    First, it is politically illiterate and whoever made it is clearly not a serious person.

    Second, pretending you’re in Star Wars? Really?

    Third, you have not and will never be the ‘good guys’ in any sort of fight, as long as you are a union of capitalist nations still feasting off of the stolen wealth of the global south.

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    Idiots. The world should be ONE already for at least 26 years. We are thrown back in time by fascist dictators

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    Don’t bother with the propaganda, Europe is the best place to live in, we are happiest and healthiest population. US is nothing but a European colony in Native American land with hybris. We had fascism here 100 years ago, US is just now starting to explore it. Democracy can be simple populism if the population is uneducated, thats what Europeans concluded 2000 years ago in Greece.

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      Europe is only a decent place to live because it’s reliant on imperialism, and until now has been able to rely on the US Empire propping up NATO to lower Europe’s millitary spending. Now that imperialism is drying up and the US Empire no longer wants to be the only one paying for NATO, European countries are enforcing austerity and sliding to the far-right.

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        To be fair, far-right ideologies have been ramping up worldwide since a decade or two.

        The current political context just embolden the far right actors to go mask off.

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          But why? What is the material cause of this? I’d say it’s the gradual decline in imperialism breeding right-wing populism as the smaller capitalists are pressed downward toward the working classes, and the necessity of austerity to cover for losses in gains from imperialism.

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            There is certainly a big part that can be attributed to imperialism, but my (uneducated) pet theory is that technocrats were able to harness the accessibility of big data after the great recession to siphon wealth from working class a lot more efficiently, by radicalizing people.

            There had been a big leap from 2005 to 2015-2016 on computing power that enabled the widespread of big data and the corpos with the means to get in on it used it to further enrich their corporation and themselves and created this extremely toxic environment where everything is polarized and monetized.

            And with big data, populists can change in real time their message so that they get more money and influence. And tribalism seems to work pretty fucking well. So they finetuned their message to radicalize people and achieve that goal.

            People can isolate themselves into online communities that will echo and amplify their views of the world. And now they are pouring on the streets because they’ve became enough of a big group to do so.

            Technocrats created this big machine to get rich, and the machine feed itself, giving more power to the ultra rich, which grab more power and influence by radicalizing people.

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      Are you saying that we aren’t completely vassalized and beholden to the yankee empire?? Who rebuilt west europe after WW2? Do you think they just did that and handed the reigns back to the europeans? Do you really think that Europe is equal to and independent from the US? Because this is how they talk about us:

      https://x.com/acyn/status/1860153637382815921

      and we just take it. Any project of ours trying to distance ourselves from yankee dependence like e.g. Nord Stream 2, they bomb it. And we just take it. Hate the yankee, but remember they’re our master and hate them more.

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      yeah always funny. The main achivement they got was grpd and ubs c on iphone. You dont build an empire base on thoses.

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    The Jedi were neoliberal losers that allowed fascists come to power and cared not for the extreme poverty going on beneath their feet of Coruscant, so yeah putting the blue lightsaber in Europe’s hands is accurate.

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    Ah Europe famous for colonization, slave trade, racism, the literal nazis being the good guys?

    Y’all I’m an American and fuck my country and fuck the current Russian state but fuck Europe even more tbh.

    Also what are you hating on China for? Guess that’s European racism again.

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        Ok you can same the about people.

        But say you and I and 3 other people are in a room.

        We find out one is an active serial killer another a serial rapist and you find out another had stolen $1000 from his own mother for a drug problem. If I make a judgment like " hey dude fuck that serial rapist and that serial killer. " And your response is “you have to accept that everybody does bad stuff”. That would be just as asinine. Just because nobody’s perfect and no institution is perfect. Does not mean you cannot make judgments about which one is morally better than another.

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      The only thing Europe did wrong was causing the fall of Rome. Everything that came after that was just a consequence.

      Rise again, Italy, and claim what is yours. The world.

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      Yeah can’t let go of the past, im still mad about the bacteria that killed my ancestor before we evolved out of the ocean

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    Since Epstein was very clearly Mossad and the United States politicians are being blackmailed and bribed by Israeli intelligence I kinda feel like this should be included in the enemy lineup. Although Is china really an enemy of Europe?

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          No, it’s a major military operations base which gives it a lot of political power but the master letting go of the leash doesn’t mean they have lost control of their attack dog. They’re just letting them loose, one whistle and they’re brought to heel.

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            Do good dogs usually blackmail their masters with trafficked children? It seems to me that Israel who has universal healthcare, free college, a $400 monthly payment per child until they are 18, unlimited money for weapons and 53 million a year to bribe US politicians is perhaps rogue AF. We have major military bases all over and NOBODY gets the red carpet that the country that just happens to be blackmailing our politicians with trafficked children gets….must be a coincidence https://www.trackaipac.com/congress

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              AIPAC is one of many lobby groups, to say that pissrael controls the US through AIPAC is like saying that the coal industrialists control the US, or the MIC contractors run the US, or the myriad other monied interests influencing politicians through bribery, blackmail whatever.

              None of them “control” the US, all of them together are the US. If, or rather when, the zionist project is no longer profitable the other interests will no longer have room for it and the US will drop it.

              Some have more influence than the others, sure, but I wouldn’t put AIPAC on the same level as Wall Street or Lockheed Martin and Boeing and co. In many regards AIPAC is actually a lobby for those groups since Pissrael is such a profitable project for them.

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              And yet, what can Israel do without the material support of the country that makes its domestic weapons production capabilities possible? What can Israel do without the country that supplies its Iron Dome system? What can Israel do without CENTCOM? Without the power of the US dollar being maintained? Without Europe being greased up to act as one imperialist unit together with the US? Without US control of oil trade? Without US rigging of international institutions?

              Can one meaningfully ever “control” someone that has that much leverage over them?

              You’re flattering yourself if you think the politicians of the US need to be blackmailed to carry out the material interest of the capitalist ruling class. They won’t pay attention to you even if they stop cheating on you with Israel, their main girl is capital.

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                American politicians are treasonous traitors but Jokes on you because Europe is Israel’s bitch too.,

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    China isn’t a threat to the EU lol. Russia is more complicated. but Putin is mostly playing the cards he is dealt. If you got rid of NATO and ended severe sanctions , maybe didn’t blow up their NG pipelines, Russia would grow beyond Putin.

    You could put any country on the left and the US flag on the right and it would be accurate. You could even put the US flag on both sides and it would be accurate

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      Russia is the fucking dealer of their own cards. The sanctions and blowing up of pipelines are both direct responses to their fucking invasion of Ukraine.

      They don’t get to play the victim.

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        Listen I do not condone the Russian invasion. But they were all but forced to invade. The western neoliberal hegemon wanted to draw Russia into a war of attrition, the west did a color counter - revolution after Euromaidan. Yanukovitch was forced out after asking for aid from Russia rather than the World Bank. The US funded extreme right-wing militants in Ukraine, and then, after Putin said they would invade if NATO expanded into Ukraine, the US and the EU pushed to make Ukraine a member state. Guess what happened next.

        And the Ukrainian people have lost so much. The country has been brutally exploited for the last 100 years. The war is a proving ground for drone warfare, which is being turned on the people of the West. I won’t say Russia had no options but invasion, I won’t defend Putin, but he’s the guy. The West can’t admit that their bellicose attitude toward Russia keeps him in power. And the war in Ukraine is a prime example. Staying in power has its own horrible logic. The actions of.Putin are reprehensible, and I probably was too easy on him in the above comment. But it is much more complicated than “bad man invade.” The Ukraine war was the result of a decade of meddling by the west.

        Perhaps a similar argument can be made of the US, that large powers have to ruthlessly defend their interests, as Mearsheimer argues. But the war in Ukraine wasnt the beginning, The war in Ukraine was the result.

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    Okay Russia is understandable cuz they’re in a war, USA understandable cuz they’re saber rattling, but genuinely what is China doing besides minding their own business?

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          No no no, you don’t understand, we wanted to make money from the ports and produce the cars but they had to be the complex, oil-sucking ones because those are hard to produce and we and our partners made good profits from the oligopoly and making cheap and environment friendly cars is just cheating. It’s against the rules-based world order! Also, Uyghurs!

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        economy war is when the west voluntarily hands you all its production and then gets mad that someone somehow handed the production over. i guess.

        edit: the people actually waging economic war on you are your own god damned ruling class.

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          Between an exchange of goods and services and flooding it by subventiontioning to suppress the competition is teensy tiny difference, no?

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            This is called a “skill issue” on the hand of western imperialists that can’t compete. Stop framing doing better as being evil.

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              Are they even trying to compete considering how many places were happy/eager to send manufacturing overseas in the name of lowering labor costs?

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                Explain how it’s evil to allow the US companies to move their production out of the US? The US corporations could have kept industry here, but they decided to fuck themselves over so that a few shareholders’ margins went up by a few percentage points. That wasn’t China being malicious, that’s the US lacking any sense of foresight while being blinded by greed.

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                  Oh no the Chinese are sending us good quality, cheap goods and letting us pay them with our dogshit overinflated currency. If only we were forced to buy plasticky shit at extortionate prices made by the USA (USA!! USA!!).

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                Evil is the invisible hand of the market fisting the ass of your country, who send their production to a foreign country, and then start crying because they get better after decades of doing what guys should have being doing all along.

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          Flooding foreign economies with cheap subventioned goods so the domestic can’t compete and go out of business and thus increasing dependency in you.
          Yes, I’d say this is bad.

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            China isn’t forcing anybody to buy their goods at gunpoint last I checked. The fact that western markets are unable to produce comparable goods at the same prices is entirely the problem with the way western economies are structured. The whole premise for loosely regulated markets was that they were supposed to be more efficient than state planning, turns out that was a big fat lie. So now the dumb fucks in the west are crying that their failed economic model can’t compete with China. Tough!

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              It is a pretty bad deal for Western workers that our economies have deindustrialized. But that’s not China’s fault, that’s our ruling classes’ fault.

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                  I would argue that it is in fact bad because it’s a threat to national security and sovereignty. The Europeans are now finding out that they’re unable to produce things domestically that their people need, and have become entirely reliant on US energy exports and military protection.

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                  Yeah, kind of, but under a capitalist system where workers can’t reap the benefits of automation and much labor is still performed in the imperial periphery it is negative.

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            This is just cope, though. China has better industrial capacity, and can produce high quality goods for lower prices because of this. It isn’t because of evil, it’s because China as a socialist economy is surpassing capitalist economies.

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            The goods produced in China are cheap because Western economies made a bet that they’d come out ahead by moving their capital out of their own economies and into China. China won the bet instead of them and now has more productive capacity than the West. Why is it China’s fault that the West had poor foresight and deindustrialized itself in exchange for short term profits? Should Chinese workers have remained poor forever instead of benefiting from Western investments?

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      Europe has a lot of good food, but the tendency is that it’s concentrated towards the south - Italy, France, Greece, etc. The food generally gets worse the further north you get, but every national cuisine usually has at least one good thing. Even Sweden probably has a good dish.

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    How is China exactly threatening Europe? By offering affordable electric cars and cheap solar panels and batteries that EU doesn’t manufacture anyway?