• CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world
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    Ok Elon is a dick but I’ve also yet to see a single age verification plan that isn’t just ‘give every social media company a picture of your ID so they can put it in a poorly secured database that gets hacked 3 times a week’

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      Agreed they don’t seem to get used, but they exist. My state has a digital ID now that can verify age (bracket), and a picture with date. That’s not bad - less than ideal for a website that doesn’t need my picture, but perfect for a bar (clearly the intent).

      It could so easily be done if that was the actual intent.

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    I would like for everyone to consider that 16 year olds arent children.

    14 year old arent children

    12 year olds are borderline children

    But being a children is a personal trait and is subjective per person their personality and responsibility, not per age.

    You can be a child even you are 30, and be a woman/man when you are 12.

    And no, just because people forgot what words meand and how humans function and me reminding them of such does not make me q weirdo creep whatever.

    10 year olds 100 or more years ago were pretty much as resonsible as 20 year olds today

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      12 year olds aren’t children you say? You’re exactly the sort of person Elon would like to hang out with.

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      You are conflating maturity with chronological age. We use chronological age and not maturity as the social metric of “adulthood” so your relativistic claim is just nonsense.

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      23 hours ago

      I see your wager and raise: 25 year olds are barely adults. 18 year olds are children.

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      First part of your comment is a hot take (especially with Americans) but personally I kinda agree, even though I would maybe say 16yo aren’t children, and 14 are borderline children, but then you by saying you can be a child (in the same sense) even when you are 30 and viceversa which is… something more of an hot take.

      The point is that you don’t go from being a first grade kid to an adult the day you turn 18, at that age every month you grow and learn and mature, and calling 14-17 year olds “children” is just disrespectful to me, as someone that has been a teenager. Do you just pretend many people don’t start having their first sexual experiences at that age or what? That does not make them adults, and I am not saying that I think it’s ok for that to happen with adults, that predators don’t exist, and that they aren’t a vulnerable group. Just that 16 years old aren’t children, and saying that doesn’t reduce the gravity of episodes like in the pedofiles - to the opposite effect, the current use of “children” creates an ambiguity of “could be 8, could be 17” that benefits them because they did do terrible things to actual, literal children, plus to teenagers which is heinous too. It creates a plausible deniability so that when you read something like “Epstein had a plane full of children” you picture high school girls

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        Most people don’t label 17 year olds as “children”. The process is something more like baby>toddler>child>pre-teen>teen/adolescence>young adulthood>adulthood.

        Since everyone matures at different levels at different times, and maturity itself is subjective, most societies air on the side of caution by legally defining people as minors (not children). They are called this because they are still in a state of cognitive development. The ones who are above average are the exception to the rule.

        It makes sense why we do this, because minors are supposed to be ushered into adulthood with gradual increases in freedom, such as being able to drive with a permit or go to school dances by themselves before they are considered a tax-paying citizen.

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          Cognitive development?

          Look around you and tell me just how much chronological age has to do with cognitive development, please.

          It comes down to experience, patience, etc.

          Sometimes I take children or “children” to be smarter than adults that are hurrying and complicating at everything

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      I mean, yes they are. But, also we have other words for children at different stages of life. This is very close to defending pedophilia.

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    This guy needs to seriously go. Fucking hell.

    We have built such a fucking pathetic society.

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    He’s just angry he can’t prey on them with the social media service he bought that creates pictures of naked children.

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    Guy who owns hate machine that lets you virtually undress children upset that guardrails are being erected to protect children.

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      The Great riddle: Is it “takes one to know one” or “deflection by projection”? (I lean towards the latter)

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    Can we stop needlessly sharing Elmo’s deranged utterances? The topic of social media policy (much as anything else) is too important than to concern ourselves with his weird tweets.