Looks like they’re leaning into the strategy of motivating committed supporters rather than attracting new ones. That might work, but IMO he’s going to bleed off too many people to Carney.
It probably would have worked against fourth term Trudeau, but that’s not who he’ll be facing.
Yeah because they know that the average voter will eventually swing conservative regardless of who’s in the seat, if you don’t believe me NL recently elected Tony Wakeham who is so ravingly unpopular here before the election even the diehard conservatives voted for him while holding their nose.
They are waiting for the pendulum to swing and when it does they have a useful stooge.
The Conservatives are pathetic. Do they really have noone better than that sniveling loser?
Better in the sense of “more electable?” Yes, absolutely. One of my biggest fears is that Ford will eventually launch a successful leadership bid. But for some deranged reason the people who vote in Conservative leadership contests really, really like Pollievre. He’s the Maple MAGA boy and they love him for that I guess.
Really?
Really?!
I was closely following this and I did NOT expect this high of a number. I expected a high number but 87 is crazy and bad sign for the Reformacons. 😅
It signifies that the party membership is a bit disconnected from the conservative voter pool. CPC - the party - numbers are much higher with voters than PP’s.
Yeah… like this guy is hugely unpopular, across almost every demographic.
I do not think they’ll get a stronger performance out of him, this was the largest election turnaround I’ve ever seen, and he’s still complaining about Trudeau.
Can still win when Carney expires though, which is a matter of time for any politician. There’s no losing if the alternative is more underwater than him. His core base is pretty solid and over 30%.
Assuming Carney doesn’t make people’s lives better.
I don’t really think Trudeau did much for our economy, that’s by far his weakest point. And the conservatives just go “we’re the party of the economy and jobs” and people lap it up.
Assuming Carney doesn’t make people’s lives better.
Of course. I’m skeptical for myriad of reasons but I hope things turn optimistic. I maxed out my political contribution limits to get him in power instead of having a Freeland-lead LPC lose to PP. Wouldn’t mind getting a bit more than no-PP for it. 😂
I did too, and I might donate again this year with how he’s doing.
My big issue with the party is the other liberal MPs who are still awful at communicating what’s being done, and some, like the AI minister still seem like complete javkasses.
Do you have realistic hope Build Canada Homes would be effective in significantly increasing housing construction with its current strategy?
Good news for the Liberals!
Yeah, I genuinely cannot see this as anything other than a massive own-goal for the cons. I know it’s a bad idea to ever, ever underestimate the stupidity of the average voter, but at this point I’m really not seeing how they rehabilitate this guy in the minds of the electorate.
Feels like a big opportunity for the NDP, honestly.
Feels like a big opportunity for the NDP, honestly.
Also a necessity. Carney will expire at some point and PP could win as “the only realistic option.” Kinda how Ford won in Ontario in election after election against lame ducks. I’m not comparing Ford’s political charisma to PP at all, but in a Wynne-like Liberal meltdown scenario, PP might win. Which is why it’s very important that we choose a decent leader fot the NDP and strenghten the party for the next election.
The electorate won’t vote him in, they will split the left and vote the liberals out.
PP is young, FPTP guarantees he will get in if he waits around long enough. He was poised to be elected earlier this year despite his bullshit.
Voting by platform and re-evaluating based on results is much better than voting by party. Hell, like so may others I was ready to vote for a conservative leader after the Trudeau era. But Carney struck me as a competent and well spoken progressive conservative in Liberal clothing. So I voted Liberal again!
PP surviving this may be good for the current government in the sense that people want to stay the hell away from him (I totally get that). But post-Davos PP actually gave a level-headed response to Carney’s speech - saying that it was a good speech but needs actions to follow. I don’t disagree with PP on that, I mean, anybody who voted for Carney will also agree, because it’s kind of a no-duh statement.
So, PP remains. Ok. I hope that he can see the way the winds are shifting and drop the Maple Maga talking points and work with the current government meaningfully.
You know, it’s all so new, the world is moving so fast, we can only wait and see how the dynamics play out. Carney has shown willingness to draw in provincial premiers together and even change some minds (like Ontario’s Ford with automotive). Maybe, just maybe, Carney can get PP to consider constructive dialogue, and that if there is an issue the current Conservative Party is passionate about, we can work with them to understand their position and try to find a solution that works across the board - and very importantly - in a way that represents the general majority’s interests.
I’d like to see leaders making their positions known, pushing for them when they’re substantive, but also making concessions if they make sense. We’re at a point where we need to take as much unity across the aisle as we can get.
And everyone, don’t forget to look into your provincial elections and your provincial policies too! Our system places a lot of power in provincial leaders, they are equally important as federal elections for domestic issues!
This is great for Canada in that it probably means Canada won’t rollover to become the 51st state anytime soon, but somehow I am still sad.
I think it’s because this smug little dipshit gets to win at anything. It’s sad.
the way PP had to stack the votes to get this is akin to “my mom says I’m the nicest boy there is”
Eh? What happened? I don’t know how the CPC election process works in detail.
In-person only voting. If any party member from across the entire country couldn’t make it to Calgary in person on a weekday, they couldn’t vote.
Hm, but they’re delegates from EDAs so supposedly most EDAs should send a delegate, no? I imagine whoever is a delegate would be involved enough to travel to Calgary. I guess that still leaves the selection bias in place.
Jesus Christ
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