All Australian states and territories ban 3D guns, but only some jurisdictions like New South Wales, Western Australia and Tasmania make it an offence to possess blueprints.
Experts are calling for retailers to play a greater role in choking the supply of 3D-printed guns in the wake of the Bondi shooting
Gun control groups are pushing for more laws that ban the importation of 3D printers if they do not have pre-installed software blocking firearm parts from being manufactured
Retailers offering 3D printers or 3D printing services would report customers suspected of building 3D-printed guns to the authorities under fresh calls for corporate Australia to play a role in thwarting access to the deadly weapons
Fairly par for the course in Australia. The problem is some of the “experts” and legislators seem to believe that everything is just as simple as waving your hand and suddenly the printer can determine what is and isn’t a firearm part and block it. They pulled the exact same thing with the under 16 social media ban.
Interestingly, accessing files via a carriage service is already federally illegal in Australia, so downloading stuff off odysee without the correct licensing can land you 5 years jail. In addition to this each state also has its own anti 3d printed firearm legislation, South Australia just made possession illegal yesterday. Much like in the US, each state also implements their legislation differently, resulting in weird scenarios where something is completely legal in one, but 5 years prison in another.
Another example of legislators living in a cartoon pretend reality. Using a 3d printer to make a working gun is similar in difficulty to making a gun with a kiln. Of all the ways someone could make a gun themselves, using a 3d printer is one of the most expensive and difficult ways to possibly do it.
If only they’d had this legislation sooner perhaps a tragedy could have been avoided. Wait, how many of the Bondi Beach firearms were 3D printed? Oh, that’s right – NONE!
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I don’t understand any of the rhetoric around the shooting. People say the laws have been effective at preventing shootings, yet there are many more guns in Australia than in 1996, so the law is both effective and ineffective, and the shooting proves we need stricter gun control even though we have less shootings with more guns and the stats point towards the vast majority of gun owners doing the right thing?
They want to pass similar legislation in NY state.
Why would it not make sense to rather better limit access to ammunition and gunpowder? There must be ways to cobble together parts into a gun-like object through other means than 3D printing, but nothing will fire without ammunition, and that seems a bit more difficult for someone to pull of themselves? Or is that incorrect?
It’s Australia. Our lawmakers just throw together some crap that makes no sense and doesn’t achieve what it sets out to do, pat themselves on the back for their ‘courage’, and call it a day. Thankfully though this is isn’t becoming law (yet)
They are idiots. They would have to outlaw math and programming too. Oh, and better outlaw the internet and books too.
How would a 3d printer know if its a firearm?
Next up normal ink printers are not allowed to print bad jokes
Two ways. The first is to dramatically increase the price due to added computing power because the device would make the determination itself with a matching database. This is probably not realistic.
The second way would be an always Internet connected device that checks your prints against an online database. This would be more practical and companies would probably love the idea of being able to spy on whatever you print.
Fortunately for the second scenario, I think avoiding that might be as easy as going into blender, adding a pointless protrusion or two and then renaming the file
Unfortunately for the second scenario is that it also gives someone else a log of everything you 3D print, protrusions or not. And even if it isn’t guns, you’d may not want that.
Damn, is it always connected or something? That’s fucked, glad I have an old ender 3
People looking to ban things don’t actually care if there is a work around, as long as they feel good getting it banned.
Do you think the politicians know how?
The only way I see is through permanent surveillance. Otherwise there’s probably an infinity of ways to cut up a plastic gun that would fool a machine
I think there are some printers that refuse to print pictures of currency.
Either way, having picked up an Ender 3 back in the day that is completely offline sounds better and better everyday.
I think there are some printers that refuse to print pictures of currency.
For currency that was a specific feature built into the currency itself. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EURion_constellation
Guns/Weapons cannot have such a thing built into them as they are non-functional elements that can easily be omitted in whatever design you print. And since General AI isn’t real, you can’t expect any system to recognize if you are tryign to print a weapon. Honestly this is the same kind of intellectual bankruptcy that backs anti-cryptography bills.
AI, of course!
Hey Google, how do I 3D print bullets?
https://www.natchezss.com/mould-4-cav-9mm-147gr-swc-356637-ly2670637
It’s called “casting” lmao but close enough, lead melts at low enough temps too.
they can’t stop people from buying the building blocks of a printer.
the motors arduinos and other stuff.
I’m sure we’ve all seen this joke:
if (printing gun){ notify police stop }from what I’ve seen, outside of handgun clones, virtually all 3d printed receivers are some sort of generic shape, occasionally with an imprecise circle that could easily be replicated with a Dremel. Ideologically western countries need more experts in government to prevent effort wasted on stuff like this.
The people pushing for this apparently aren’t in government in the first place, they’re a lobby group.
Bribery is a whole other issue
Less of a “buy fancy dinner” type and more of a “shout real loud” type.
Australia doesn’t have the same issue with corporate lobbyists that America does. Instead what happens is if you do something the corporate lobbyists don’t like, they topple your government (via favors traded with the Murdoch press).
I think being obsessed about limiting firearms should be grounds for immediate imprisonment of that politician and any private interest who ever spoke to said politician about them. Every government should be one bad-day away from being overthrown by an armed citizenry, so that the politicians who pursue these jobs for selfish reasons are reminded what their purpose is.
In the last 30 years the US has lost 1.5 million people to gun violence. That is more than every single war we have ever fought combined. Almost everyone in the US knows someone who has been shot and killed.
Most countries don’t want to replicate this insanity hence common sense gun policy.
The overthrow your government thing is just a marketing technique to get people to buy guns. Looks like it works great for you.
The 3d printed gun fear mongering is the opposite of “common sense gun control” though. It’s like tryign to mandate government backdoors for encryption, it’s intellectually bankrupt and the politicians and lobbyists who push for that crap shouldn’t be allowed to live on their own, let alone run a government.
I think it should be against the law but I don’t like the idea of trying to “pre-cog” prevent it though. You can also easily make a zip style gun in your garage. That should be illegal to, but we should not be banning the parts or tools to make it.
I suppose they would argue there are protections we already allow like in regular laser/inkjet printing to prevent money forgery and to track prints.
Because that “overthrown by an armed citizenry” policy worked so great for America.
The only people who would use guns to overthrow their government are psychopaths. The army needs to recruit impressionable teenagers and then indoctrinate them into a cult in order to form a fighting force, and a resistance doesn’t have that infrastructure. If such a left-wing resistance did exist, they would make for a terrible government after the fact because they’d all be psychopaths.
To be clear, I’m not saying overthrowing a fascist government by force is psychopathic, just that only psychopaths would be willing to pull the trigger.
I read this as 3rd and I was like oh. We have 1st printer and 2nd printer, but now we have 3rd printer?
Too bad I already own a 3d printer, of which I have printed several very real looking guns to make a movie. Looking back on it I probabably should have attatched something orange to the end of them but oh well.
Yeappp think that’s happening in Washington and New York too. Tis bad mkay?? We’re so close to losing all our freedoms. I mean… it’s already here… but I’d say 10-20 years and we’re living under full ai monitored surveillance. I’m talking out my ass a bit but yea.
This is becoming a trend. First it was blue states and democrats in the United States, now it is Australia just after they pushed another gun grabber bill in the wake of radical violent immigrants committing a terrorist attack. Eventually this will become the reality with one printer. Eventually, one company WILL do this sort of filtering
the bondi attackers were australian citizens who were very likely operating on behalf of ‘foreign interests’. The anti-speech laws (pushed by the zionist lobby) were bundled together with the new gun restrictions. When mileikowsky quickly blamed peaceful protestors from several weeks before, it became pretty obvious which foreign entity was likely responsible.
Tell me, where they born there? Actual genuine Australians? They were immigrants. A piece of paper granting them citizenship makes them citizens of Australia not Australian. I will agree with the foreign interests sticking their ginormous noses from halfway across the world into the business of another nations internal matters, almost seems to be a trend at this point
The Democrat’s actions in America make less sense because of the second amendment and per-state gun laws.
While they make no sense logically, it does make sense from an authoritarian standpoint, disarm the populace so when we do things they do not like, they are unable to do anything to stop us. If they do stand up for their people and livelihood they will be subjected to the absolute full force of the state pressing down upon them.
