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On January 3, the United States blatantly launched large-scale military strikes against Venezuela, forcefully seized Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro and his wife, and took them out of the country. It claimed that it would “run” Venezuela and even did not rule out launching a second round of military operations on an even larger scale. China is deeply shocked by and strongly condemns the unilateral, illegal, and bullying acts by the United States.
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Venezuela is an independent sovereign state with every right to defend its sovereignty and national dignity. Countries in Latin America and the Caribbean are important forces in maintaining world peace and stability and promoting global development and prosperity, and they have every right to independently choose their development paths and partners.
No country can act as the world’s police, nor can any country presume to be the international judge. China firmly supports the Government and people of Venezuela in safeguarding their sovereignty, security, and legitimate rights and interests. We firmly support regional countries in upholding the status of Latin America and the Caribbean as a zone of peace.
We demand that the United States change its course, cease its bullying and coercive practices, and develop relations and cooperation with regional countries on the basis of mutual respect, equality, and non-interference in internal affairs. China stands ready to work with regional countries and the international community to strengthen solidarity and cooperation, uphold fairness and justice, and jointly safeguard peace and stability in Latin America and the Caribbean.
The most strongly worded letter of all
Political power grows out of a stack of strongly worded letters.
The poetry nerd inside Mao is flexing rn
they’re calling it china’s finalest warning
Geopolitics right now:
- China: Statement.
- Russia: Sends submarine; Statement.
- EU: Monitors situation.
Yet
C’mon, do something
To be fair a lot of the warhawks in the US are saying the exact same thing.
If we lived in a just world this is where literally every single country in the world would draw the line and unite to dismantle the united states
Unfortunately we live in this shitty world
When the US inevitably turns towards Cuba, who thinks China will do anything?
China has done the math and realized that in the long run they just need to wait and america will fall on it’s own. If we assume china wins and does comunism afterwards it is the correct choice. Passing up short term risk to protect their long term position. So in that way we don’t expect them to do anything in responce to anything short of direct US agression.
I don’t think that’s their plan. And I don’t mean that as a negative against China.
But if it was their plan, I’m skeptical that a strategy that’s so cold hearted and devoid of solidarity would lead to communism.
Building communism is unfortunately not a question of who has the warmest heart or who sticks their neck out the furthest for others.
The culture you build and foster in your apparatus has very real affects on the people who take power and lead. If the prevailing attitude is a selfish cold pragmatism, how long until the rot sets in the party apparatus?
Socialism in one country is a pillar of Marxism leninism. You are conflating the relationship the CPC has with non Chinese people with how they are internally. The culture internally in China certainly does not feel like selfish cold pragmatism as an outsider who has spent time there. Everywhere I looked, people were warm, friendly and generous. Even the cops and military people I interacted with were very friendly.
And again, China has and continues to do a lot in solidarity for the world. They aren’t trying to start ww3 though, which is a gamble as far as outside intervention goes
Until they have Taiwan again and probably even more of a collapse in Japan, it is quite dangerous for their #1 priority, their citizens, if they escalate with the US while surrounded by US bases
Socialism in One Country doesn’t mean it’s cool or desired to ignore the rest of the world. It’s not that exporting ideology and support abroad is bad in all cases, or that it is inherently negative.
It is that the revolution needs to be build and nurtured at home, before such things can be done. It’s about stabilizing the gains, so you don’t lose everything. China has been growing steadily stronger for decades. They are the economic hegemon of the world. This is not the same situation that Stalin and Trotsky split over. Not at all.
If you really think China has ignored the world you aren’t qualified to speak on this subject. No investigation, no right to speak
You have to be cold hearted to win a war. How many more people might have been saved if che didn’t die in battle? If we look at the reverse how many people would we say increasing the risk of capitlaism winning again is worth?
this sounds kinda like techbro long-termism
Sounds like “Chinese socialism will survive on top of the skulls of millions of Latin American and Middle Eastern people, what do we care”
Is it lack of care or lack of ability to stop it?
Lots of people in this thread demanding China do something, not a lot of detail on what that something could be.
Leading BRICS in hastening de-dollarization and enacting harsher trade and export controls in response to blatant acts of aggression would be a start. Anything other than the usual strongly worded letter and the “expressions of concern” we’ve come to expect from them. Putting any kind of skin in the game and use their place in multilateral institutions would show some solidarity.
China reaffirming their “best trade buddies” position with the US after the invasion doesn’t help for sure.
It isn’t “what do we care” it is “what is to be done”
Do you think weaking ing the soviet position to eventually lose was a worthy trade for the USSR? I doubt it. However at the time would you have said Afghanistan was worth the risk of saving it? Probably right?
So if you can picture a better way to project force into the American sphere of influence with out risking the lives of all the children on earth you have a better tactical understanding than China does of their own capabilities
The difference is a strategy. Tech bro bullshit is based on belief that the magic of technology alone will justify any sacrifice now. This belief in China isn’t based in magic, but a very planned strategy with concrete steps. And it doesn’t justify any sacrifice now, just more than you may feel comfortable with.
The fault of tech bro longtermism isn’t in thinking about long term effects, it’s the magical thinking which is grounded in little to no material reality
Which, as they want to see most people die and live in a shitty plastic utopia full of slaves and AI marvel movies, is a good wat to get what you want.
Hammer, nail, etc
I mean what do you expect them to be able to do?
nuclear proliferation is probably the most reasonable thing, somehow.
That or China winning the next “space race” and getting a commanding position over the USA that nullifies the ability to use nuclear weapons.
Option 2: China goes full joker mode, publicly makes a show of giving nukes to both Koreas on the condition that they both point one missile each at Japan
I’m joking because I don’t think there is a good option here and I hate nukes so I made myself laugh
Chinese envoy slams US’
We demand that the United States change its course, cease its bullying and coercive practices, and develop relations and cooperation with regional countries on the basis of mutual respect, equality, and non-interference in internal affairs. China stands ready to work with regional countries and the international community to strengthen solidarity and cooperation, uphold fairness and justice, and jointly safeguard peace and stability in Latin America and the Caribbean.
Yeah but does it though ??
Safeguarding peace and stability are nice words China but you actually have to fucking do things that match those words.
That moment when China becomes the reasonable worldpower xd
China was pretty reasonable all throughout the global war on terror, they kill their billionaires, I envy their reasonableness.
China, who hasn’t been to war in nearly 50 years, becomes reasonable now?
