LGBTQ+ people in the US contemplate heading north as they wrestle with the president’s assault on the community
Archived version: https://archive.is/20250907120700/https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/sep/07/trump-lgbtq-americans-canada
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Depends on where, as some cities are turning reactionary, like banning certain books such as Handmaid’s Tale.
I’m not sure it’s as easy as people think to move to another country.
Dude…every day some American thinks they can drive into Canada without a passport.
Every time they elect a new shitstain they yhink the world is just waiting for some undereducated americans.
It’s damn near impossible for most of us. I know, I’ve tried.
As a Canadian…where are you planning on living exactly? We don’t even have enough housing for Canadians and unless you’re prepared to pay upwards of $2000 CAD a month in rent or over a million dollars to buy then good luck.
I mean I know it sucks down there but it ain’t exactly sunshine up here. There’s no housing, we don’t have any jobs, the cost of living is WAY higher than the US. I mean sure we’re not going to toss you in a camp for being LGBTQ+ but you’ll be sleeping under the gardiner expressway in Toronto…
“It sucks down there” is a hell of a euphemism for “the systematic and targeted eradication of LGBT+ community by American conservatives.”
I’m also gonna guess that the “consider” part of the headline probably includes the whole “planning and figuring out if and where we can go to in Canada, and where it’s not viable.”
“Shit’s expensive up here” doesn’t really stand up to “we’re afraid for our very lives down here”.
Americans pay more for food, and they pay the same rents, PLUS health insurance premiums or debt, education also 3-5X more. At the lower end of pay scales, poorer Americans pay far more taxes.
Less than $1500 USD/month?? That sounds amazing. We live in an expensive city for my spouse’s work, and we pay more like $2600 CAD for an apartment that isn’t particularly high quality. And it’s only this cheap because we’ve been here a long time, other units nearby are hundreds (USD) more.
I get what you’re saying, but having a bad time economically isn’t really comparable to the shit going on with LGBT (especially the T) rights in the US right now. Shit’s hard economically here too, only here we’re also wondering what rights we’ll wake up with tomorrow. For some people being homeless in Toronto actually is the better choice.
Not defending either side but just to add context, most fields pay way more in the states than in Canada. I wouldn’t be surprised if cost of living relative to average income was vastly worse off up here. My wife and I considered moving to Newfoundland (far east island in Canada) since that’s where all my family live and housing is way way way cheaper but our paycheques would be slashed so hard it wouldn’t make sense. Same sort of situation. Canada in general pays far less.
Canada has a higher minimum wage than the US federal minimum, although some states have a higher minimum. I know American EMTs who are making what would be minimum wage in Canada, but it isn’t minimum wage where they are.
Good luck getting a minimum wage job though. If you aren’t in a speciality field (and even then it’s still very hard), no one here can get a job right now. At least where I live anyway. Any time a grocery store, liquor store, etc has a job posting there’s 200+ people lineups for interviews for 1-2 positions. It’s insane. And no, I don’t live in Toronto, Vancouver, or Montreal.
When I meet someone new and ask what they do for a living, there’s a good 30-40% chance they’re between jobs. Then for people in high demand jobs, a lot of them consider working down south because it pays so much more. A neighbour of mine recently moved to a border town so he could work in the states because it literally paid double.
Every single cost of living website says Canada is cheaper to live in. Depending on the metrics they use that ranges from slightly cheaper to much cheaper.
If they manage to find work outside of Vancouver/the GTA/Ottawa I say go for it. We have loads of developing cities that could benefit from immigration.
that’s a massive IF.
would rather live under a bridge then in a camp or prison
Have you considered joining a resistance and fighting for your rights?
Canadas not some bastion for these minority groups.
Depends. Vancouver is one of the most queer and specifically trans inclusive places in the world at present. Culturally speaking there aren’t a lot of places where a lot of queer accommodation is almost mainstream. Gender neutral bathrooms are becoming wider spread with segregated bathrooms often including signage specifically welcoming trans people. Our informed consent system for trans healthcare is something the UK trans folk have been envious of for years on years and there is a current practice of trans acceptance in schools and vibrant villiage dating scenes that take trans acceptance as a mission.
It isn’t perfect, certainly transphobia still exists here but it’s about as “bastion” like as you are gunna get.
We should be a bastion for Canadian values and principles. Canada has always been a place for groups persecuted by the US government, from slaves to men not wanting to fight in Vietnam. This is just the next community that needs us.
At this point most of us are just hoping to dodge camps
Which European countries have jobs available with good benefits, free healthcare, affordable gigabit internet with no data cap, legal cannabis concentrates (dabs and wax pens), and are currently accepting Americans?
None. No European country allows for legal cannabis concentrates.
As for the rest of your requirements: Most, I think? Except for affordable gigabit internet outside a few select countries perhaps.
Okay what about outside of Europe, then? I can’t sleep without my weed pen. Flower is a non-option cause the wife can’t stand the smell (and I hate smelling like a dispensary too).
Imagine not leaving concentration camp USA because you can’t get your weed pens lol
Imagine being so ignorant and brainwashed that you still believe that weed doesn’t have any legitimate medicinal use.
I didn’t say that. I was implying that the importance of access to weed is significantly less important than not being murdered at a concentration camp. Medicinal or not.
I think the only country with as liberal of cannabis regulation is Canada and maybe Thailand. Not sure about other countries.
Medical use is still covered in much of Europe, though as far as I’m aware solely as a last resort for chronic pain. I think medical cannabis can only be consumed through weed pens as well, pharmacies aren’t going to give you joints.
Though I’m fairly sure a doctor would first attempt to find the cause of your insomnia because symptom treatment is of secondary concern. That might make for an uncomfortable first weeks.
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