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    People actually thought he’d stop after taking over Palestine? Look at what he’s already doing in Syria, they’re next.

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    Literally what Zionism means…

    We need to stop ignoring these far right religious extremists when they keep telling us who we are.

    If saying theyre commiting a years long genocide is “bad” and most of our politicians admit they support by accepting the Zionist label.

    We need to realize America isn’t the priority for the Zionists. If you say you’re a Zionist, it means your mains goal is the expansion of Israel and the removal of the native population.

    The term has exists for 50+ years longer than Israel has:

    Zionism[a] is an ethnocultural nationalist[b] movement that emerged in late 19th-century Europe to establish and support a Jewish homeland through the colonization of Palestine,[2] a region corresponding to the Land of Israel in Judaism[3] and central to Jewish history. Zionists wanted to create a Jewish state in Palestine with as much land, as many Jews, and as few Palestinian Arabs as possible.[4]

    Theodor Herzl was the founder of the modern Zionist movement. In his 1896 pamphlet Der Judenstaat, he envisioned the founding of a future independent Jewish state during the 20th century.

    Zionism initially emerged in Central and Eastern Europe as a secular nationalist movement in the late 19th century, in reaction to newer waves of antisemitism and in response to the Haskalah, or Jewish Enlightenment.[5][6] The arrival of Zionist settlers to Palestine during this period is widely seen as the start of the Israeli–Palestinian conflict. The Zionist claim to Palestine was based on the notion that the Jews’ historical right to the land outweighed that of the Arabs.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism

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      We need to stop ignoring these far right religious extremists when they keep telling us who we are.

      Minor-ish pedantry: Zionism has been like this way before the religious right became a significant force within in. To quote (and paraphrase) Ben Gurion, “the best definition for the borders of the state of Israel is ‘as far as the Israeli soldier can reach.’” Netanyahu and the modern Israeli religious right aren’t any more expansionist than early Zionist leadership, which was very atheist.

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        I don’t have the quote on hand but one of the founders literally admitted to using the bible as an excuse to do what they already wanted to. Which was to get the jews out of europe because a lot of the people behind zionism were super anti-semitic.

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          Yeah because Israel functions as one of the largest and oldest concentration camps for Jews, that’s why Nazis like it so much

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      Additionally, Israel is the world’s largest and oldest concentration camp for Jews and that is why many Nazis and antisemetic people support it - literally because it functions to quarantine, endanger, and eugenics Jewish people. Expanding Israel and threatening their neighbors will only lead to Israel’s demise, kinda the goal of Nazis and antisemitic people…

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      But how would the ML get their dopamine if they can’t make everything the fault of the USA? Remember, it’s Genocide Joe’s fault? If it doesn’t crush the USA, it’s fake news, propaganda.

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        You legitimately think they’re the only ones pissed Biden illegally went around Congress to fund a genocide?

        That’s not an unpopular opinion, most of the Dem voting base was pissed. Shit, I’m still pissed.

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          I am saying that the point of the ML is to crush the USA. Many other countries are selling weapons to Israel. Australia just shipped them a bunch of weapons. Why are you not complaining about that? The point I’m trying to make is that the ML went way out of their way to help Trump get elected. The point of that was to crush the United States. The ML do not care at all about genocide. I’m serious, they do not give a shit about any Palestinian. They love it because it crushes the west. There are lots of terrible things going on all over the world. But the ones we hear about from them are the ones that crush the west. They won’t talk about anything else. Like a good little soldiers.

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            Why are you not complaining about that?

            Gee…

            Why are Americans focused on what American politicians do with American taxpayer money…

            Truly a mystery for the ages champ.

            The world may never fucking know.

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    He thinks he’s going to be done with Palestine soon, and knows that his ultra national coalition allies need a new enemy, or they may leave. If they leave the coalition the sword of Damocles, that is his corruption trial, will be that much closer to falling on his head.

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    I’ve linked this so often now my browser autocompletes “Orig” to https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/original-party-platform-of-the-likud-party

    a. The right of the Jewish people to the land of Israel is eternal and indisputable and is linked with the right to security and peace; therefore, Judea and Samaria will not be handed to any foreign administration; between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty.

    from https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/history-and-overview-of-the-likud-party

    Likud first came to power in 1977, in what would eventually be referred to as “the Upheaval,” an election that marked the first time since Israel’s independence the Labor Party would not lead the government.

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          Their point is that Netanyahu was never the good guy, so it’s more of an asshole becoming even more of an asshole.

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            Wasn’t he just an “ordinary politician”, quite liked? Or at least okayish? Or so I remember. But maybe some people wasn’t even born at that moment.

            People tend to forget, even Putin was seen like some cool strongman at that time. Turns out that being in power really brings out the bad stuff in people.

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              Netanyahu was marching out in (or sometimes leading) protests not so subtly calling for Yitzhak Rabin’s assassination in 1995. He was only an “ordinary politician” because at the time “ordinary poltiics” acceptable to westerners included the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians and starvation of Gaza; his actions have been escalating as he gained more power and influence, but he himself has always been like this. People like this in general tend to have always been fascist peaces of shit willing to do anything to remain in power, but there’s groundwork to be done before they can go full mask-off. As for Putin, well that guy was dismantling democracy from day one, up to and including using what was likely a false flag operation to start the Second Chechen War. Not my first choice for a good or normal-ish guy corrupted by power.