Growing up, portable cassette players were always called “freestyles” here. I never knew it was a marketing thing, or that some other countries also objected to the naming.

this is “original research”, which means i dicked around on the internet archive for half an hour. it may be wrong.

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      that’s what made me do this. i have no idea why they both used the same name, and i can’t find any documents explaining the reason for the australians doing it.

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    Pretty bold to name it Greenland in Greenland. Sony just out here going “Hey Greenland, buy a Sony Greenland to play your tapes on.”

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      There are only 50,000 people there, if they had to hire someone to think of a better name it would have become unaffordable for the average greenlander.

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      the swedish language council tried to make it “bärspelare” as well, but to no avail

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    I was confused about it being called a “Stowaway” in the UK, as they were always called “Walkman” as far as I was aware - though apparently it was indeed called the “Stowaway” from mid-1979 for at least a few months, possibly even a year or two. It was called the “Walkman” from “the early 1980s”.

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      yeah there is very little info on this stuff. i chose a map from 81 but at that point it was already a walkman in england. however i did find a picture of the “sony stowaway” original packaging.

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    Very interesting, well done for the research!

    What we can surely all agree is that all these names, especially Walkman (Bill Bryson: “it’s not a man and it doesn’t walk”) were terrible.

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      it’s uh… wasei-eigo. it was meant to, quote,

      introduce the idea of “Japanese-ness” into global culture, synonymous with miniaturization and high-technology.[60] The “Walk-men” and “Walk-women” in advertisements were created to be the ideal reflections of the viewing audience.[61] Sony implemented a marketing strategy, hiring young adults to walk around in public wearing a Walkman.

      naturally, the marketing agencies in some countries didn’t really get it (see also: the Honda Pussy) and suggested different names

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    I wonder why they decided that Sweden should get a name different than the other European. Maybe IKEA had already copyrighted Wålkmån?

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      that i can actually answer! there was an entire movement/subculture thing anchored to the word “freestyle” in the late 70’s-early 80’s. think rollerblading, skateboarding, downhill skiing, extreme sport stuff, and pastel overalls, headbands and sunglasses:

      there was even a band named freestyle. my mum was really into them as a teen.

      also, sony sweden insisted. they were adamant that “people wouldn’t get it” if the thing was called a walkman. and they were right; the word freestyle is still in common use, while “walkman” never really took off.

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        I have to admit a freestyler sounds better than a stowaway and a sound-about for sure. Might even beat Walkman if I never heard of either words and could make a decision unbiased. Do you also know anything about Australia’s reason?

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          i have no idea :/ a while back i read an interview with the guy at sony sweden who made the decision, but for australia there is literally no info. i sincerely doubt it was a coordinated effort, since it went on sale in like 1979.

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        Swedes love freestyle skateboarding. 2 in particular might be responsible for the sport still existing in Europe at all, Stefan Akesson and Denis Sopovic.

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          oh wow, stefanie is even from the same area as me and i had no idea

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      Even odder that Ireland would be different to the uk. Most marketing and branding is unified for both due to the same language and distribution networks. This has a visually changed since brexit, but this was the 80s, when most of Ireland’s trade was with the uk, not Europe and the USA.

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        that’s what the disclaimer is for. i have no idea what it was called in ireland, but i know it was available and that the stowaway name was only used very, very briefly.

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          Haha, yes. Even as I wrote it, I wondered if it was just a case that Ireland was not listed for the UK market. Also inwonder d with Sweden having a different name was Denmark just an afterthought. Their languages are quite similar is often a similar market.

          Perhaps multiple names were used for only a short period while the markets were tested.

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            swedish and danish are close grammatically, at least on paper, but common words can differ a lot.