Meanwhile, Texas cops say no evidence of a hate crime.
As if the whole country isn’t tacitly approving of this by embracing hate and apathy.
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There on fucking statement makes it clear it was a hate crime [ Mr. Joss’s murder was related to his sexual orientation," SAPD said on X.] If he had his house burn down and murder because he was gay THAT IS A FUCKING HATE CRIME!!! Fuck that police department ACAB.
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The only good Republican is a dead Republican.
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God fucking damn it. I am so sick of this shit.
Ohhhh…this provides much needed context & clarity that I didn’t have before. When I hear there’s been a ‘shooting’ in America, while this is technically correct, I don’t think it’s one person shooting another. I hear ‘shooting’, and I think one or more shooters/multiple targets/largely indiscriminate just one group vs another.
By all accounts, this is very discriminatory & targeted. Obviously. I would word it as “Jonathan Joss murdered”, then explain he was gunned down by a deranged homophobe.
Until just now, I genuinely assumed Mr. Joss got caught up in a mall or gang shooting. This is especially tragic & inexcusable, such targeted hatred.
Tbh, most “shootings” in America aren’t active shooter events in the way you expect. Most are targeted and related to other crime (be it robbery, revenge, domestic assault, etc), some fit the definition of mass shooting (4 or more shot incl shooter) but it’s gang/crime/drug related and often in those cases a bystander or two, more fall in that category than random mass shooter events by an order of magnitude.
The mass/school shootings you imagine are actually incredibly rare statistically, something like 0.00094% last time I checked. In fact even most “school shootings” are the same, with one or no people injured, and targeted. Or even accidental discharge with no injury by the school cop or a suicide in a recently shut down forever school at 3am in a car in the parking lot (real events counted in everytown’s school shootings numbers a few years ago).
Hate crimes are for sure more common, actually.
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They are watching you.
Texas, the Islamic State of America
Ah yes christian terrorism, very islamic.
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I mean whats a little islamophobia if we’re insulting the bad people
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American Taliban
“Y’all-Qaeda” was never a joke, but a very fitting name for these religious lunatics.
They should just keep to polishing their suvs vigorously when they get “impure” thoughts.
What are we a bunch of muslims???
The entire US of A was founded on slavery and indigenous genocide. Not just the hillbilly bumpkin parts, not just the ones that vote for the party you don’t like. And Muslims carry none of the blame for that, neither do the indigenous people (like the victim here) or other POC that live in the red states yet get cast out to die whenever smarmy liberals decide to score some points by dunking on their fellow settlers.
Can’t use that as a slur anymore.
The US proxy is whitewashed, just as the Taliban was when they could use them.
This is fucking horrible.
i am hot with rage actually
Jonathan Joss 15m
Statement from Tristan Kern de Gonzales
Husband of Jonathan Joss
My husband Jonathan Joss and I were involved in a shooting while checking the mail at the site of our former home. That home was burned down after over two years of threats from people in the area who repeatedly told us they would set it on fire. We reported these threats to law enforcement multiple times and nothing was done.
Throughout that time we were harassed regularly by individuals who made it clear they did not accept our relationship. Much of the harassment was openly homophobic.
When we returned to the site to check our mail we discovered the skull of one of our dogs and its harness placed in clear view. This caused both of us severe emotional distress. We began yelling and crying in response to the pain of what we saw.
While we were doing this a man approached us. He started yelling violent homophobic slurs at us. He then raised a gun from his lap and fired.
Jonathan and I had no weapons. We were not threatening anyone. We were grieving. We were standing side by side. When the man fired Jonathan pushed me out of the way. He saved my life.
Jonathan is my husband. He gave me more love in our time together than most people ever get. We were newlyweds. We picked Valentines Day. We were in the process of looking for a trailer and planning our future.
He was murdered by someone who could not stand the sight of two men loving each other. I was with him when he passed. I told him how much he was loved.
To everyone who supported him, his fans, his friends, know that he valued you deeply. He saw you as family.
My focus now is on protecting Jonathan’s legacy and honoring the life we built together.
If your concern is how someone coped with trauma or how loudly they speak when recounting injustice and being ignored by authorities then you never truly cared about my husband.
Jonathan saved my life. I will carry that forward. I will protect what he built.
Tristan Kern de Gonzales
This is PROOF that Cops PROTECT people and that GAYS are the Problem and NOT the people who LITERALLY MURDERED SOMEONE FOR BEING GAY AFTER THE COPS KNEW THIS WOULD HAPPEN BUT CHOSE TO IGNORE IT!
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What’s the point of this non sequitur
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Buddy, you’re on lemm.ee. The entire point of your instance is to be federated with everyone else. If you don’t like that there’s communists on the social app built by communists, why don’t you just use any other instance? Or just go back to reddit?
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i just dislike authoritarians
Yeah I love political ideologies, I just hate the ones that do anything (very serious)
Commies that bring the tanks out, not so much
That’s true af dude, we would definitely live in a better world right now if the USSR had just allowed Hitler to march through all of Europe and kill everyone. And we would live in an even better world if after pushing out the Japanese imperialists and the nationalists, Mao had just said “uhh the state is an oppressive institution so I think now we’ll just dismantle everything and y’all can just organize horizontally or whatever.”
also, why don’t YOU go back to your hexbear sanctioned community instead of telling me what the fuck to do?
You’re the one who’s jumping on us Hexbear users just for participating here and telling us to defed…
There it is. The post that ended an entire instance.
yeah, you are done. your posts were so low in quality that your instance is shutting down.
you did this.
I’ve learned more about homophobia in Russia and China from hexbear posts because they actually have solid sources and not just Wikipedia links posted with no context, and from what I’ve seen it’s a rare hexbear that would deny there is a problem with homophobia in Russia.
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Whataboutism
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Oh yeah, like when all we voted for a genocide because “whatabout orange guy”
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I’m sure Jonathan would have been thrilled to know his death was somehow nicer, more civilised as compared to that of queer folks in Russia
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Why bother when in a month your instance is going to defed itself from existence
What the fuck
Sounds like they were gangstalked.
i actively avoid texas whenever i have to drive cross country. i’ve gone as much as 4 hours out of my way. every time they threaten to secede i hope TO GOD they go through with it.
So many of our current problems could have been solved by expelling Texas fifty years ago
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This is such an insulting and frankly stupid take. Homophobia is not the work of self-hating gays, it’s just bigots being bigots. I’m sure that some closeted self-loathing gay folks do this kind of shit, but if you’re seriously suggesting that the only people who are willing to throw out homophobic slurs and violence towards gay people are other gay people then I don’t know what to say. Conservatives are hateful bigots to virtually every minority group on the planet, but only with homophobia are they accused of being the thing they’re being hateful towards. Why? I’ve never seen a racist accused of secretly being black, or a anti-semite being secretly Jewish, but apparently every homophobe is just a poor confused homosexual trying to throw of the scent.
Speaking as a gay dude, please stop this victim-blaming bullshit.
You have to be right, of course, demographically speaking. There’s no way the amount of bigotry we see could come entirely from a fraction of a minority, as the person above you is implying.
That said, it is difficult to reconcile that with a key feature of homophobic (and transphobic, etc.) rhetoric that is not present in racist beliefs: homosexuals are accused of choosing to be gay.
Which, of course, is as absurd as accusing someone of choosing to be black. And yet we hear one of these constantly, and never the other.
How is it even possible for someone to think that sexuality is a choice, unless they are constantly and actively “choosing” their own? That’s not a rhetorical question. I genuinely can’t make sense of it and that bothers me deeply.
This is the dumbest fucking take you liberals always trot out any time someone is homophobic.
Hate is real and it’s all around us.
Couldn’t be that a systemically homophobic country with a media landscape pushing hard on queerphobic stochastic terror propaganda would empower dickheads to attack queer people. No, the murderer must secretly be gay.
Couldn’t be that a systemically homophobic society would confuse and frustrate ignorant savages without critical thinking skills, who also happen to be having gay feelings that they have been socialized to despise since childhood.
Why are you so keen to blame homophobic violence on gay people?
I’m not blaming gays in general, but I also have a lot of life experience that demonstrates that often the loudest, most vicious homophobic politicians, preachers, etc., almost always eventually get caught with gay men. If you are that angry about gays simply existing, it is likely because you have unresolved internal hatred.
It is simply a fact that unhappy closeted gays are often the gay community’s worst enemies. I don’t blame “gays” for that, I blame a homophobic society that demonizes gay orientations, and forces weak people to deny their own truth.
What do you think the percentage of homophobic violence is carried out by cishets Vs closeted homosexuals? Because from my experience it is overwhelmingly bigoted cishets doing this sorta shit.
In place of trying to extrapolate a whole-arse sexual complex of someone neither of us know anything about I’d prefer to stick with what’s more likely.
Especially because this sorta self blaming of the queer community for its suffering has historically been used to minimise it (gay panic defences being used in cases murdered transfemmes for example).
Why are you so incapable of reading… Oh wait, hexbear
ignorant savages
But how am I supposed to know that without taking a look at their skulls?
Gay people are themselves responsible for their oppression not us Certified StraightsTM
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