• usernamesaredifficul [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    2 years ago

    this man could read if he chose British liberal texts from 200 years ago that say “we have enriched ourselves by stealing all of the colonies stuff” at no point was this a secret

    • GarbageShoot [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      2 years ago

      Macron: without Africa, there would be no France

      Noah Bilitytoselfcrit: no, actually, I think France would do just fine since Africa’s all the way over there anyway. It would cost more to boat rocks here than the rocks would be worth, I’m pretty sure.

      • DrCrustacean [any]@hexbear.net
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        Libs today don’t think neocolonialism exists, that’s kinda OOP’s whole deal (although it’d be easy to miss as the only defense of this idea he gives us “it’s dumb if you think it’s real”). They think colonialism was bad but the Good Guys in the West ended it a hundred or so years ago and now the third world is poor because they have bad ideas/governments.

        You have to remember that liberals are idealists. As in, they believe that material conditions are caused by ideology. The West has better ideas and better systems of governance, so it’s more prosperous. They can’t believe that wealth in the imperial core comes from extraction in the global south because that means that the liberal ideology stems from the material conditions of global dominance and hegemony and not the other way around.

        “Neo-Colonialism is based” is what they’ll be saying after they’ve been scratched

    • InevitableSwing [none/use name]@hexbear.netOP
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      I’m certain he thinks that.

      Imagine somebody replied to him with this link to a Wikipedia section and they gave him a ~200 word baby brain summary so he doesn’t have to strain his baby noggin with big words and context and too much information.

      1954 Guatemalan coup d’état

      United Fruit Company lobbying

      He couldn’t understand. There’s no way to get him to understand.

      How can a fruit company be powerful? They just sell fruit!

      He can’t fathom that countries like the US historically and still routinely bully weaker countries and powerful entities allied with US interests benefit greatly. Sometimes it’s fruit and other times it might even literally be “digging up minerals”.

  • edge [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    I want to know where he thinks the wealth of nations comes from and how it doesn’t involve extraction of minerals and other resources.

    “Innovation”? A vast majority of innovations use metal in some form. Modern innovations are mostly digital, and computers use many metals.

    A bigger army? That’s a lot of metal needed for those guns.

    From their banking system? Money isn’t real, the only reason it works is because it’s backed with power. See above.

    Trade? Trade of what, Noah, fucking aqua?

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      His take actually helps me understand why libs keep screeching for decoupling with China as if it wouldn’t crash the entire world economy. They don’t think that things are made out of raw materials and labor.

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        Beyond this dork, this is genuinely what modern economists claim to continue defending endless growth in the face of climate change: that growth itself will decouple from its environmental effects / from actual resources extraction and exploitation (and all that means for local ecosystems). As far as I can tell it is treated as absolute truth - almost as if it’s common sense - by these freaks.

  • Bobson_Dugnutt [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    2 years ago

    I guess all those gold crucifixes in European churches just appeared out of thin air

    Everything in the British Museum was bought and paid for in a totally consensual and mutually beneficial exchange

    America became the richest country in human history because of the Protestant work ethic