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Philosoraptor [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net to the_dunk_tank@hexbear.netEnglish · 2 年前

Poor deprived Africa has never even had a chance to experience capitalism

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Poor deprived Africa has never even had a chance to experience capitalism

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Philosoraptor [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net to the_dunk_tank@hexbear.netEnglish · 2 年前
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  • Assian_Candor [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    Oh they’re experiencing it alright

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]@hexbear.net
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      No, no, no. They aren’t advanced enough to experience True Capitalism. In Africa, Capitalism has simply never been tried. That’s why they don’t have the big malls and the ranch style homes and the overabundance of third world natural resources at discount rates.

      To the Africans I say GIVE CAPITALISM A CHANCE. Your first step is to launch a fleet of Liberation Ships to the coast of Florida, where you can bring Freedom and Justice to the oppressed peoples of Miami and Ft. Lauderdale. Then spread your message of peace, love, and the Grace of God all along the Gulf and Atlantic Coasts, where millions of lazy and uneducated white natives have fallen victim to the removed habits of a Godless Nation. Finally, you can build for yourselves a shining City on a Hill using the newly harnessed energy resources of these once slovenly and backwards peoples. And you can set yourselves up as an example for the rest of the Central World, as a glorious African Union.

      • Philosoraptor [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netOP
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        Your first step is to launch a fleet of Liberation Ships to the coast of Florida, where you can bring Freedom and Justice to the oppressed peoples of Miami and Ft. Lauderdale

        sicko-wistful

    • SoyViking [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      No you silly goose. That’s not real capitalism. Real capitalism is when nice things happens to white people in office towers in the west.

  • Emanuel@lemmy.eco.br
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    What does this even mean

    • Philosoraptor [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netOP
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      It’s supposed to be “evidence” that the global south doesn’t “use capitalism,” which is supposed to explain…something.

      • Rom [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        Probably some hitler-detector shit.

      • barrbaric [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        Imo it’s implied that the reason they’re “underdeveloped”, “poor”, and have low life expectancy etc are all because they aren’t “using capitalism”. Which, while not what they mean, is not entirely wrong; if Angola were the global capitalist hegemon and able to use capitalism as an extractive weapon on other countries, presumably they’d be a lot better off.

      • Emanuel@lemmy.eco.br
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        I got that, but then you look at like Italy and Botswana and this just falls apart

        Like, the argument seems to be “look at this map, let’s be more like Georgia”

        It would probably also help to understand the nonexistent point if the map had more pixels

        • Philosoraptor [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netOP
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          Yes, none of it makes any sense or is coherent in any way.

    • Aryuproudomenowdaddy [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      It means look at this photograph and hopefully back down because he’s bringing hard truths to the argument.

  • BeanBoy [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    Nordic socialism supporters in shambles

  • half_giraffe [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    ancaptain on suicide watch after learning Argentina doesn’t “use capitalism”

  • odmroz [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Incredible! To think, if only Africa had ever been affected by capitalism!

  • Red_Sunshine_Over_Florida [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    My question is, what did Botswana do to get on their good side?

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]@hexbear.net
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      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botswana#Independence

      In the 1970s, Botswana held a reputation of being one the world’s principal producers of diamonds. This reputation has held into the modern day as Botswana’s diamond mining industry is among the world’s largest.

      • Red_Sunshine_Over_Florida [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        So they play nice with the West by giving them diamonds.

      • Lemmygradwontallowme [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        They’re compradors?

        • zifnab25 [he/him, any]@hexbear.net
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          Plenty of them are just Settlers.

          South African, Johannes “Jannie” Mouton

          Rhodesian, Jonathan Gibson

          Italian Giorgio Giachetti

          Canadian Eira Thomas

          They’re all just European ex-pats looting the country from the inside.

          • Lemmygradwontallowme [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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            There’s a difference between settlers and expats

            Settlers connotate hands-on rawdogging early bloody landholding and industrial capital and its allies, that seeks to ethnically cleanse, if not genocide an indigenous area and settle its new superstructure there… they’re much direct and reactionary as is…

            • zifnab25 [he/him, any]@hexbear.net
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              Settlers connotate hands-on rawdogging early bloody landholding and industrial capital and its allies

              I think all of the above fit the bill.

              • Lemmygradwontallowme [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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                I mean I guess, but expats strike me more as part of a sterile Finance capital, PMC and its allies around the world, who are essentially little Eichmanns that stay in one country and move to another for business and so on so forth, keeping their hands and image ‘clean’, ‘diverse’, et ‘diplomatic’… they aren’t really Trumpists, who want to defend to hell their settler-colonial land…

                They may not ethnically cleanse, if not genocide native populations but they do the paperwork of approving company policy to ruin them into the ground…

  • PKMKII [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    This makes no goddamn sense. France is partially capitalist? I could see that being a “social democracy isn’t real capitalism” angle but then why the hell are the Nordic countries full capitalism? Botswana is full capitalism but South Africa is only partial, guessing that’s a “we have to recognize it’s highly developed for Africa but we don’t like Mandela so it gets a ding.”

    • FunkyStuff [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      It’s just a map of how much capital exists in each country (maybe per capita to some extent to explain why China is partially capitalist)

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    So England is fully capitalist while Scotland is only partially capitalist?

    • biden [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      They technically have their own prime minister-ish figure and are a semi-autonomous nation with their own succdem led parliament. Like they still have to submit to England, but I guess they appease Scots by allowing them some different systems

      For example, university is tuition free in Scotland but insanely expensive in England, which basically makes Scotland 50% USSR to these people

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    This map is fucking awful

  • charly4994 [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    Besides the blue, everything’s grey. Maybe use more than 2 colors zane

  • BeamBrain [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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    Very curious how this person would define capitalism

    • join_the_iww [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      markets, “””””property rights”””””, and ease of registering a business

    • Philosoraptor [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netOP
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      Landlords’ rights.

    • RyanGosling [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      It’s a ratio of melanin to treat consumption

  • CyborgMarx [any, any]@hexbear.net
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    Utter fuckin nonsense

  • asg101 [none/use name, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    They might not use it, but are certainly used BY it.

  • RyanGosling [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    Communism was abandoned in 1991 which proves it always fails. But capitalism being embraced everywhere afterwards and countries still collapsing shows that communism always fails!

  • Xx_Aru_xX [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.net
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    Algerian victory

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